Schurkey Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 However... This ethanol crap will not work in most of our cars here. It's designed and can run fairly well in NEWER cars, but when you are running a 16 year over 15 years old, like a lot of us here... we find that it doesn't do justice to regular gasoline. I didn't notice the power drop. I noticed my car not running right. And my gas gauge screwing up, and computer acting weird. I will never put that crap in my car again. 16-year-old car won't run on E-10????? My '92 and '93 Lumina Euro 3.4s run just fine on the stuff. So does my '88 work truck; my '68 El Camino, and '66 Toronado. I have run an '80 Honda Civic on it; a '69 Impala, a '75 and '76 Nova, a Honda motorcycle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry455 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 years ago (mid to late 80's) union 76 used ethanol probably more than they should have and it used to eat my carb gaskets but my 86 grand prix, zz3 elec. carb absolutely loves sunoco 94 10% ethanol. it is the only premium fuel that the car will not diesel on when i shut the car off. i have tried every other brand of premium around here and i like sunoco best. i have been using it since i built the car in 1996 and i have had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ficho Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Go YOU! However... This ethanol crap will not work in most of our cars here. It's designed and can run fairly well in NEWER cars, but when you are running a 16 year over 15 years old, like a lot of us here... we find that it doesn't do justice to regular gasoline. I didn't notice the power drop. I noticed my car not running right. And my gas gauge screwing up, and computer acting weird. I will never put that crap in my car again. I haven't had any problems with it in my Cutlass, which has the LQ1 3.4. I've ran the E10 gas in my car since day one of buying it, and I've driven it close to 10k miles with no problems other than a starter crapping out on me... IT WAS THE GAS' FAULT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns87 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Read your owners manuals. Our cars are designed to run (3.1mpfi) on 10% or less ethanol blend. Everything else is just mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 my z34 seems to not like the ethanol blended stuff. The GA doesn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank b Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 E10 is as much as you want to go in any car that is not made to run on ethanol. Eth is a solvent that will destry gaskets, seals, an o rings unless they are specifically made for alcohol use. That's why 10% ethonal is the only amount sold in gas. If it were more, and damaged vehicles, that gas company would lose their but in lawsuits. Expect ethonal bleds at every staion before too long. I drive a gas tanker, but I do not deliver Shell or Sunoco so i don't know about them, but Chevron, BP, and most of the generics are all E10 now. You can't get conventional gas at some terminals anymore. It's all E10 or reformulated gas. The company I haul for put the stickers on the pumps saying it may conatain 10% ethonal, not that it does contain 10% ethonal because they get whatever is cheaper that day, rfg, conv, or E10. Every company will do that now, unless your in a metro area that has to have rfg gas. You have no idea what is in that tank unless you put it in there. Of the 150+ stations we deliver to, only one is conventional only, and that's the one in front of the company HQ that they use for all their vehicles. Which is the one I use . Ethanol does not contain as much energy as petroleum gasoline. It takes more eth to get the same power on less gas. That's why you loose mileage. If you were to build a car to run on ethanol, you would have to use bigger jets in the carb, or reprogram the computor. The flex fuel vehicles adjust the fuel amount more then a regular car can to compensate for the ethanol. It's used because it is a renewable resource that we can make right here in the USA. But, we need too much fuel to use just ethanol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 I might spring for a tank of premium in the 2000 and see if there are any gains. It is very possible that the Up to 10% blend that we have is not actually 10%. Either way, I really don't see myself having any kinda big gains from premium.It's unlikely that you will see any gains and in fact you probably will see a loss in both performance and gas mileage with premium unless you are running a high compression engine. Premium gas burns slower to help high compression motors avoid pre-detonation (knock). I think people have an idea that premium explodes harder which is not the case. It explodes later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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