SSEiyah93 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Good man! And that's the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Couple things I'd like to address. 1st, the lack of respect for property is not merely an issue of whether the person bought/invested in the property his/herself. It is just a general state of laziness, apathy, and flat out low intellect in this country, and it's getting worse with every generation. I've noticed living in apartments is getting worse and worse due to the general public that make up your neighbors very quickly becoming a lower and lower class of people, this past car search (prior to buying the '01 GTP) has been an eye opener for how people take care of their cars these days (not just gen II w-bodies), etc. Having things bought for you doesn't help, but even for those who buy their own things, the vast majority just don't give a damn, because giving a damn takes too much effort, and.....well....let's face it - people hate to put forth an effort in this country. 2nd, I don't think most gen II GP owners are spoiled kids who had their cars purchased for them. That is not why they treat older GPs with disrespect. From being on many primarily gen II dominated forums, I have come to realize that.....most gen II owners don't know jack shit about cars. Hell, just 2 meets ago, when our turnout turned out to be a huge gen II GP fest, someone with a gen III GP called Mike's Cutlass (SigEP) an "older Grand Prix". Many of them have learned quite a bit about the L67, but that is merely because they own one, and have spent time on forums related to them. If you ask them about cars other than a gen II w-body, they can't give you jack for stats, facts, mods, etc. And as is customary in America, when you don't know jack shit about something, you form strong opinions regardless (i.e. newer is better, therefor a '95 GTP is a piece of shit, and a '99 GTP RuLeZ!!!1111). They're in love with their own cars/the L67, and don't know much about anything else. Therefore, by default, everything else is a "piece of shit". Hmmmm, that sounds familiar. What does that remind me of....... OH! That's right. RICERS! Obviously, there are exceptions to every rule, but this is the bulk of what the gen II community is comprised of. It is also why I was so hesitant on ever owning a gen II/L67 powered car. I did not want to be associated with that crowd. Hell, the unwarranted L67 elitist attitude has even reached most of the gen I crowd on ClubGP, from calling their own cars a "first gen", to ignorantly bashing the "lack of power" of the LQ1, even boosted, while spouting at the mouth about how much more powerful the L67 is. Here is a fine example of just how brainwashed some people are even within our own gen I community by "the Church of L67". http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=4275664&appid=&p=&mpage=2&key=clubl67&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#4296339 The misinformation and completely biased opinions were nothing short of astonishing during this...."debate". Of course, they were messing with the wrong guy, as hyperboles, exaggerations, fabrications and ignorance don't get you very far against me in a debate. Unfortunately, most of them were too stupid to even realize they weren't making a very good argument, or that they were loosing the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 that clubl67 thread was epic.....so many noobs got pwned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99RegalGS Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Does anyone have Terry's #1 and #2 videos? I don't seem to have them... EDIT: found them both! hah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Does anyone have Terry's #1 and #2 videos? I don't seem to have them... EDIT: found them both! hah! they're both on youtube! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 got links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Couple things I'd like to address. 1st, the lack of respect for property is not merely an issue of whether the person bought/invested in the property his/herself. It is just a general state of laziness, apathy, and flat out low intellect in this country, and it's getting worse with every generation. I've noticed living in apartments is getting worse and worse due to the general public that make up your neighbors very quickly becoming a lower and lower class of people, this past car search (prior to buying the '01 GTP) has been an eye opener for how people take care of their cars these days (not just gen II w-bodies), etc. Having things bought for you doesn't help, but even for those who buy their own things, the vast majority just don't give a damn, because giving a damn takes too much effort, and.....well....let's face it - people hate to put forth an effort in this country. 2nd, I don't think most gen II GP owners are spoiled kids who had their cars purchased for them. That is not why they treat older GPs with disrespect. From being on many primarily gen II dominated forums, I have come to realize that.....most gen II owners don't know jack shit about cars. Hell, just 2 meets ago, when our turnout turned out to be a huge gen II GP fest, someone with a gen III GP called Mike's Cutlass (SigEP) an "older Grand Prix". Many of them have learned quite a bit about the L67, but that is merely because they own one, and have spent time on forums related to them. If you ask them about cars other than a gen II w-body, they can't give you jack for stats, facts, mods, etc. And as is customary in America, when you don't know jack shit about something, you form strong opinions regardless (i.e. newer is better, therefor a '95 GTP is a piece of shit, and a '99 GTP RuLeZ!!!1111). They're in love with their own cars/the L67, and don't know much about anything else. Therefore, by default, everything else is a "piece of shit". Hmmmm, that sounds familiar. What does that remind me of....... OH! That's right. RICERS! Obviously, there are exceptions to every rule, but this is the bulk of what the gen II community is comprised of. It is also why I was so hesitant on ever owning a gen II/L67 powered car. I did not want to be associated with that crowd. Hell, the unwarranted L67 elitist attitude has even reached most of the gen I crowd on ClubGP, from calling their own cars a "first gen", to ignorantly bashing the "lack of power" of the LQ1, even boosted, while spouting at the mouth about how much more powerful the L67 is. Here is a fine example of just how brainwashed some people are even within our own gen I community by "the Church of L67". http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=4275664&appid=&p=&mpage=2&key=clubl67&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#4296339 The misinformation and completely biased opinions were nothing short of astonishing during this...."debate". Of course, they were messing with the wrong guy, as hyperboles, exaggerations, fabrications and ignorance don't get you very far against me in a debate. Unfortunately, most of them were too stupid to even realize they weren't making a very good argument, or that they were loosing the battle. You, sir, are an asset to this company. A+!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99RegalGS Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 got links? Only found terry's 2nd video.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2bass Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Thats a kick ass vid!! Way better then the club gp one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 we go through this shit every damn month it seems on why nobody loves 1st Gen's over on CGP. Let it fuckin go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 yeah...2nd vid is the only one i have on there i guess...i'll re-up the 1st when i get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSEiyah93 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Wonderful video... I just wish it had sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GranSport Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Thats a kick ass vid!! Way better then the club gp one. X2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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