kaptnjack Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I have been driving bonneville sse's for 15 years and I am hooked on the onboard compass. I like backroads and lost lanes and a compass sometimes helps me find my way back to civilization. Anyway...I have been using the search function and read several pages of posts about mirror swaps and DIC's. Anyone have a final resolution for the best prospect to add a compass function to my 93 CS vert? J/Y's will be my parts farm so any specific info on models or types will be a big plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 What I put in my car since Cutlasses did not come with a compass of any sort. Plus the auto-dimming mirror is really nice on night drives with the top down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptnjack Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks Manic. What did that piece come out of? Does it have the courtesy lights too? Auto dimming and temp are secondary to me...the compass and map light is the priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have this Gentex mirror if you're interested in it. Auto dimming with compass, but no maplights. PM me for more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptnjack Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thanks for the reply Got2b I think if I change I would like to retain the map lights. I think a mirrror from a 91-93 seville has the compass and lights based on limited research. I am going to continue my research for now and try a JY run sometime in the future to see what I can dig up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have a auto dimming, compass mirror, with LED maps lights from that 2001 GLS I torwe down, its gonna cost ya few pennies to talk me out of it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 The ones from Intrigues have LED map lights, but consume around 200mA at all times. Very bad if you ever leave the car sitting for over a week or so. Intrigue's BCM shuts down power to the mirror after something like 10-minutes so they don't have that problem. Donnelly used to make a autodim compass mirror with map lights, but the compass is green, not aqua. I have one and 1/3 of the autodimming liquid leaked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Sometimes Shuan your electrical knowlege scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptnjack Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Do you guys think or know if all compass mirrors are going to have the battery drain issue when retrofitted to our verts? The cadillac seville R/V has map lights and compass...dont know about color of display. The aqua/blue display would be really nice...any clues as to what models used the blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I know the Intrigues are blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 All the Gentex mirrors have the aqua display. What year Sevilles come with map lights and compass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 All the Gentex mirrors have the aqua display. What year Sevilles come with map lights and compass? I'd be interested to know the answer to that too. I like having the map lights also. Got one from an Intrigue, but haven't installed it because of the power drain issue. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake91 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 The ones from Intrigues have LED map lights, but consume around 200mA at all times. Very bad if you ever leave the car sitting for over a week or so. Intrigue's BCM shuts down power to the mirror after something like 10-minutes so they don't have that problem. how would that matter in a cutlass. after like ten minutes the power cuts off in them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 The ones from Intrigues have LED map lights, but consume around 200mA at all times. Very bad if you ever leave the car sitting for over a week or so. Intrigue's BCM shuts down power to the mirror after something like 10-minutes so they don't have that problem. how would that matter in a cutlass. after like ten minutes the power cuts off in them too To install the Intrigue mirror, or not to install?? That is the question. Wish this power drain issue in the CS would be resolved once and for all. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 The ones from Intrigues have LED map lights, but consume around 200mA at all times. Very bad if you ever leave the car sitting for over a week or so. Intrigue's BCM shuts down power to the mirror after something like 10-minutes so they don't have that problem. how would that matter in a cutlass. after like ten minutes the power cuts off in them too you are correct, but that is only with to regards if you leave the door open with interior lights on. I suggest wiring up the mirror map lights so that they are on circuit that only recieves power with the car on, so you can only turn the lights on when the car is running. (that mirror will cause a battery drain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 there is a way to hook up a RAP and the mirror could hook up to that but i have yet to figure out how to do this. Or just leave the constant wire disconnected and just use the maplights for the domelight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 there is a way to hook up a RAP and the mirror could hook up to that but i have yet to figure out how to do this. Or just leave the constant wire disconnected and just use the maplights for the domelight If you, or anyone else can figure that out, please post. It's a really cool mirror, and I'd like to install it. My reason for the map lights working as the stock ones do is for the added entry and exit lighting when the door is opened. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Need to clarify a few things.... The only compass auto-dimming Gentex mirrors to get map lights (until very recently) were the ones used in the Olds Intrigue GLS. There are some much newer, much more expensive vehicles to get a dual display compass/temp auto dimming Gentex mirror with map lights, like the Land Rovers, but that's it for Gentex. I'm not sure which Cadillac mirrors are being referred to, but I have yet to see or hear of one with map lights. This was not a common feature on Gentex mirrors because they mostly worked with GM up until recent years, and most higher end trim level cars that got these mirrors already had dome lights overhead. Donnelly, on the other hand, offered quite a few mirrors with map lights. Anything from just self-dimming (used in many early Gen II w-bodies), to self-dimming plus compass and temp. However, as Shawn found out the hard way, the Donnellys have a nasty tendency to leak the fluid out as they get old and fail. I've never heard of a Gentex failing, and certainly not leaking (not positive, but I don't think they even use the fluid method). Secondly, while this is a matter of taste, I've always found the Donnelly mirrors to be quite hideous by comparison. They're more egg shaped, and it gets worse on the ones with compass/temp, because the screen for them is UNDER the mirror 90% of the time. I've only seen a handful where it's IN the mirror, like Gentex. As for the issue with the Intrigue GLS mirrors, I still don't understand how/why it can draw power if a +12V source that only comes on with ignition is used. Or what about wiring a BCM into the car? I don't know much about how the BCMs work, so that may not be a viable solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 The ones that came in the full-size SUV's don't have maplights?! BOOO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Nope. Most of those got OnStar mirrors, with possibly compass/temp, depending on the overhead console and year. They didn't get map lights because they usually already had a fancy overhead console with dome lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake91 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 would a mirror like this work without the battery drain problems http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-96-Caprice-Impala-SS-COMPASS-LIGHT-REAR-VIEW-MIRROR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem380083704141QQitemZ380083704141QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Can anyone post pics of what the Intrigue one looks like all lit up and what it does specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 As for the issue with the Intrigue GLS mirrors, I still don't understand how/why it can draw power if a +12V source that only comes on with ignition is used. Or what about wiring a BCM into the car? I don't know much about how the BCMs work, so that may not be a viable solution. IF you wire it in so it is only on with the ignition (maybe tie it to the radio circuit) it will not draw power. the probelm as i understand it is that the mirror even when off draws some power, but as used in the Intrigue the BCM cuts power to it after 5 minutes. would a mirror like this work without the battery drain problems http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-96-Caprice-Impala-SS-COMPASS-LIGHT-REAR-VIEW-MIRROR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem380083704141QQitemZ380083704141QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories I want to say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdvs Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 As for the issue with the Intrigue GLS mirrors, I still don't understand how/why it can draw power if a +12V source that only comes on with ignition is used. Or what about wiring a BCM into the car? I don't know much about how the BCMs work, so that may not be a viable solution. IF you wire it in so it is only on with the ignition (maybe tie it to the radio circuit) it will not draw power. the probelm as i understand it is that the mirror even when off draws some power, but as used in the Intrigue the BCM cuts power to it after 5 minutes. would a mirror like this work without the battery drain problems http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-96-Caprice-Impala-SS-COMPASS-LIGHT-REAR-VIEW-MIRROR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem380083704141QQitemZ380083704141QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories I want to say yes. That doesn't look bad. Any idea what brand? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake91 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Donnelly i belive because here is another just like it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__91-96-IMPALA-SS-CARPRICE-Rear-View-Mirror-Compass-Light_W0QQitemZ140282725300QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item140282725300&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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