crazydriver20 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 i took my xover off thinking i could get it rewelded and get a little more life out of it, but on of the bellows was completely cracked in 2 when i removed the heat shield, also there are 2 other small cracks, nobody around my area will weld it for me so im left with a huge lawn ornament until i can get a factory xover or a custom one, can anyone lead me in the right direction to get one, and i live in iowa so the closer the better, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bake82 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 http://www.tgpforums.com/index.php?topic=3203.0 Talk to Kenny. You may also be best to call him directly at his shop http://kazmotorsports.com/ is his shops website. I don't have his x-over in my car, but I know a few others do and say it is a GREAT piece of work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krenzy Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 I have a Kenny Crossover. It's great! Just remember, you are paying for quality, so don't be surprised by the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 send me some pics: goten@wi.rr.com I'll see if I can do it, but I'd be making it a "one piecer", so no flex sections unless you buy them. you pay for shipping and parts (flew pipes if wanted). depending one how bad the pipe is I'd help you out for $25 labor, cuz I'm not looking to get rich. I just want to help out. but I might not be bale to do it if you're is really fargone, so send the pics and we'll see. be sure to not use a cxell phone to take them...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Bullet, a pipe with no flexes is a very temporary solution. It will crack badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Bullet, a pipe with no flexes is a very temporary solution. It will crack badly. I could debate it with you, but I wont. flex pipes on the X-over are always a good thing to have, but considering that the downpipe is one HUGE flex pipe, the x-over really doesn't "have" to be like that. but to each his own. refer to "kuntzie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 The thermal expansion and contraction of the aluminum cylinder heads will stress the straight piping until it cracks. Do you think that GM would actually waste money putting flexes on the crossover if they're unncessary? Some people with TGP's have already tried straight piping and found out just how temporary that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 The thermal expansion and contraction of the aluminum cylinder heads will stress the straight piping until it cracks. Do you think that GM would actually waste money putting flexes on the crossover if they're unncessary? Some people with TGP's have already tried straight piping and found out just how temporary that was. you make a good point, which I already know. just saying it's up to the buyer in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudkiller Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i was newbie in it but was is an X-over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i was newbie in it but was is an X-over? the exhaust pipe that connects the front and rear manifolds on the right hand side of the engine. also known as a "crossover pipe" here an aftermarket version of TGP crossovers. it's the pipe that's blue. http://www.v6z24.com/jbodyforum/complete-3-1-turbo-kit-f-s-new-lower-price-t87750.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 i was newbie in it but was is an X-over? It's the exhaust piping that connects the front & rear exhaust manifold to the turbocharger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 check the link, I'm half tempted to buy that x-over from the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I didn't realize that I posted so closely to you and repeated what you said bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Powered Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I got a straight pipe x-over without bellows.. Its cracked though. right at the turbo flange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I didn't realize that I posted so closely to you and repeated what you said bullet. Garrett Powered - other than the crack right by the flange does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Powered Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 It came on the car. I never started the car with it on, so I don't even know how many miles they got out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGPilot Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I didn't realize that I posted so closely to you and repeated what you said bullet. Garrett Powered - other than the crack right by the flange does it work? Having a straight pipe rather than at least one bellows is a fools answer to a temporary repair. Let's see...the factory dual bellows will crack in less than a year do to the flex that occurs from expansion and contraction. What do you think will happen to a solid piece of pipe? If your answer is to make the pipe thicker than what will happen to the manifold flange points? If you have any cracks/fresh air entering the system prior to the 02 sensor then you are negating the the entire reason for fixing a cracked factory bellows. I love it when people have a shadetree mechanic or "muffler shop" repair their cross-overs...they normally call me within a couple of weeks crying that they spent money for someone else to "repair" their x-over and now they have to pay me to get it done right. Do it right the first time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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