z34_nut Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 bout damn time... there was about 110,000 on this engine. Its going to be a very long, and expensive build from here on out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 That engine was rebuilt by Michael....wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Yeap. On the exterior... it lasted a very long time... but I'm going to be very interested on how it looks when I take it apart. I'll finally be able to put my own damn engine in there... thats pretty bad for an engine builder to put it off that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Ya, so it had like what 50k? What are your plans? You know there is a Fiero guy pushing 400 whp on a Turbo 3.4 with a tune, stock bottom end and ported heads/custom headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I was thinking Turbo as well. These cars LOVE to breathe. I figure I'll do my port magic on the intake (or build a custom one), and on the heads... make this car wake up. I already got a hook up on pistons and rods... (forged). Found some cam profiles, and also better springs + stainless valves for my application. The joy of ODB 1 is the fact is MUCH easier to smog... and if I want to retain that, and make serious power... I need a turbo. I fully expected this car to quit at some point (soonish) and have been researching some parts for it in my downtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 When you say much easier to smog you mean mod it and pass smog? Or pass smog with mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 mod it and pass smog? Or pass smog with mods? i'm so confused... lol... its the same thing only the words are switched!! Its both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 OMG wow. What are you saying...Is this just a continuation of our AIM convo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Apparently... lol Anyway, its easier to pass smog with mods if you keep the ODBI system. Less requirements, and easier to mess with... ODBI is a post 1974 owners dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 So you can get away with more mods on OBD 1 as opposed to the same mods on OBD 2? Since OBD 1 controls less? Could you even get the car tested with OBD 2 equipment? I mean would a shop do that? What do you plan on doing for a trans? EDIT: How does testing work on California? Do you have to go to a shop that does testing, or a state office? I would try to find a "hook-up" with testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Knock Knock Knock Who's there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Why does it say I said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Good luck and keep us updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 I'm not understanding what OBD1 offers vs OBD2. If you're talking smog laws, I can see an original OBD1 car being easier to pass smog due to higher smog limits, lack of computer check, lack of a need for sensors to be up and running (like post-cat O2's) etc. But what can you do with an OBD1 system that you can't on an OBD2 one? I'm not talking vehicle specific, I mean the system itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Knock Knock Knock Who's there? Another taosted LQ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 that sucks the motor went with so little mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 OBD-II would actually be easier to pass emissions testing, the computer part at least, since it's very easy to fake OBDII testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 ^ I agree with that at least for my application. My HC levels are high at idle and I am within a few PPM of failing emissions every year. If my car was a 1996 or newer I'd have no problem passing until there's a law against modifying emission-related computer controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminaPower92 Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Knock Knock Knock Who's there? Another taosted LQ1 Got a toasteed one in my 94 CSC, 93k on it. Sucks, nice car too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Couldn't you run a emissions-friendly tune, and then change it back when your done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 I think you'd need a newer block to run OBDII wouldn't you? The motor I bought was a 91 installed into a 95 monte and he said the 91 block didn't have all the sensors a 95 did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Why does it say I said that? oops quoted the wrong person LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Couldn't you run a emissions-friendly tune, and then change it back when your done? If I go Turbo, yes... But that still doesn't get you around visual testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm not understanding what OBD1 offers vs OBD2. If you're talking smog laws, I can see an original OBD1 car being easier to pass smog due to higher smog limits, lack of computer check, lack of a need for sensors to be up and running (like post-cat O2's) etc. But what can you do with an OBD1 system that you can't on an OBD2 one? I'm not talking vehicle specific, I mean the system itself? There's an ability to tune using your MAF sensor. Speed Density tuning would be proffered in my application, but we'll have to stick to the O2 sensors for a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm not understanding what OBD1 offers vs OBD2. If you're talking smog laws, I can see an original OBD1 car being easier to pass smog due to higher smog limits, lack of computer check, lack of a need for sensors to be up and running (like post-cat O2's) etc. But what can you do with an OBD1 system that you can't on an OBD2 one? I'm not talking vehicle specific, I mean the system itself? There's an ability to tune using your MAF sensor. Speed Density tuning would be proffered in my application, but we'll have to stick to the O2 sensors for a good one. Unless you mean something different, OBD2 cars can tune via MAF all the time. I did that on my Olds, even though I did a SD tune as well. I'm thinking you must be referring to something else though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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