PaPaPooh Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 my 89 cutty 2.8 got a chain or belt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomFE3 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 right on! fo sho. you got it down brotha. booyah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 lemme guess plastic gears? if so they got metal replacements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panopticon Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 lemme guess plastic gears? if so they got metal replacements? can't be worse than my plastic valve covers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 lemme guess plastic gears?if so they got metal replacements? No, they're metal gear sprockets. Why asking? Afraid something might be shot internally in your motor? - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomFE3 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 lol! your just itching to give away advice on fixing a wrecked motor, arent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 lol! your just itching to give away advice on fixing a wrecked motor, arent you? David, aren't [we] supposed to help out others? This is a forum where people care, don't they? I do. - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomFE3 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 haha i wasnt makin of ya, just pointing it out! i think its glad we're helpin others. speaking of helping others, i still got lots of stuff for sale! i emailed tgpguy21 like 3 or 4 days ago and he hasnt emailed me back yet! maybe he doesnt know we are serious about buying it..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 naw after goin to missouri and puttin 3500 miles or so on it now it is up to 90,000 so i was wondering if i was going have to do a belt (can of worms!) in 10,000 miles thanx for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdelorie Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Is that chain ever due for replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 i dont know about "newer" cars but on "older" cars i know that you don't have to unless it streatches, breaks, or for some reason (dunno if it is possable?) or slips a tooth and if a rebuild is done it is suggested to be done (might even include the replacement) never had a rebuild done!! dont know for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 i dont know about "newer" cars but on "older" cars i know that you don't have to unless it streatches, breaks, or for some reason (dunno if it is possable?) or slips a tooth and if a rebuild is done it is suggested to be done (might even include the replacement) never had a rebuild done!! dont know for sure!! From personal experience, I've never replaced a chain on a pushrod. * 1988 Celebrity - 2.8L MPFI V6 w/ 156K+ miles with no chatter or replacement * 1989 Beretta - 2.8L MPFI V6 w/ 189+K miles with no chatter or replacement I say if you been keeping the motor in tip-top shape, they're shouldn't be any reason to do such a repair. Unless you're extremely paranoid or can hear some clicking or metal rubbing, I wouldn't worry about. That's something that HAS to be abused for it to destroy itself. - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stencil Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 You have a chain, and in 6 years of wandering L-Body forums I've never heard of a 2.8 or 3.1 breaking one. Also, isn't the service life on most belt about 60k miles, not 100k? I've know Talon's that have snapped a belt at 75k and POOF< new engine time. naw after goin to missouri and puttin 3500 miles or so on it now it is up to 90,000 so i was wondering if i was going have to do a belt (can of worms!)in 10,000 miles thanx for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 actually with the DOCH ive heard of as low as 30k. so between that and the alternator, those repairs right there screw mechanically challenged people like me over when it comes time to get them fixed. otherwise id be dying to buy a GTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 most ford products are 100k that i have hear or see from personal exp. my uncle had an izuzu it was 100k when it went out. the 88 honda civic i had was 100K most the timeing belt drivin water pumps gears go out and thats why the belt breaks they recomend on those to replace the water pump with the belt even if it aint broken or dead yet the talon im sure about the water pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stencil Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Well, it's all fine and dandy that people can GET 100k out of a belt, but that's an AWEFUL expensive risk to take. Kinda like playing russian roulet with your engine. I've owned 3 Honda's and one Toyota and all of the service manuals recommend belt replacement at 60k miles. The same holds true with the DSM (3000 GT / Eclipse) DOHC motors and the 3.4 DOHC -- all recommend replacement at 60k. I have no doubt that some belts will last 100k, however - The idea is to replace the belt BEFORE it breaks - not get it as close as possible. most ford products are 100k that i have hear or see from personal exp. my uncle had an izuzu it was 100k when it went out. the 88 honda civic i had was 100K most the timeing belt drivin water pumps gears go out and thats why the belt breaks they recomend on those to replace the water pump with the belt even if it aint broken or dead yet the talon im sure about the water pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panopticon Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 yah i have an old 86' accord and an 87 corolla. Both belts are original and they both have over 300,000km HOWEVER. These are just beater cars and i couldn't care less. however on my 88 toyota 4-runner it snapped the chain after 500,000km Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 i understand that you have had 3 whatevers and one whatever and the dohc's are the same i can only say what i have seen read or "whatever" i never said you where wrong or that i doughted you in what you where saying so i dont have to be told again that it is 60k i did noy need you telling me that they are not 100k i was answering redfox's question "Why asking? Afraid something might be shot internally in your motor?" there for this is off the topic of what i asked!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 thanx for the help Glad to hear everything is all good and nothing's broken! That's always make my day a good day! - Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stencil Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 If I'm translating your jibbirish correctly, I think you're telling me that you already knew that belts should be replaced at 60k, which makes me wonder why you started on your little rant of "My yadda yadda went 100k on it's belt before it snapped" in the first place. I was simply trying to point out that, if you have a timing belt, it should be changed EVERY 60K miles. Even though you may understand that, I wanted to make sure that some less experianced person who could be reading this thread does as well. We don't need some new member with a 3.4 DOHC getting confused by your poor spelling and grammar and thinking they can get 100k from thier belt -- the last thing I'm sure they want is to shell out $2500 for a new motor when thier's breaks at 7000RPM. i understand that you have had 3 whatevers and one whatever and the dohc's are the same i can only say what i have seen read or "whatever" i never said you where wrong or that i doughted you in what you where saying so i dont have to be told again that it is 60k i did noy need you telling me that they are not 100k i was answering redfox's question "Why asking? Afraid something might be shot internally in your motor?" there for this is off the topic of what i asked!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaPooh Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 i was not ranting when i mentioned the water pump but i was ranting about you saying once again it is 60k i was talking about what i had happen to me so there was no reason for the second post about the 60k and if a new member has a question im sure they are not to shy to start another thread asking so your posts are pointless i will say it again i never said you where wrong i was only "posting" about what i have read in the autos service manuals on all three of the cars i mentioned above and replaced (or helped replace) all three!! have a nice night!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 yah i have an old 86' accord and an 87 corolla. Both belts are original and they both have over 300,000km HOWEVER. These are just beater cars and i couldn't care less. however on my 88 toyota 4-runner it snapped the chain after 500,000km Ha! We got my dads 85 Toyota pickup with the 22R apart right now, because of timing chain problems. The driver's side chain guide broke, and a piece got wedged in b/n two links of the chain, and would make the gears not engage fully and it would slip. Also, the chain was stretched 7mm. Its a common problem on those OHC 4 bangers Robby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panopticon Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 they might run the same engine im not sure. But thats pretty much exactly what happened. it was making tons of noise near the end and then one day it just went. strong running motor though ill give it that. and with the 4runner 4x4 tranny, the thing would climb a freakin wall. (although very slow top end speed ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstar Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 I have a 92 gutlass 3.1 with 222k on the clock, original engine and tranny and no problems yet runs really strong until the transmission slips out of gear or the damn SES light comes on. Also with the subject, what is the longest has any one been crazy enough to keep an original timing belt on a 3.4 DOHC. My GTP has 90k on the clock and I am going to replace it soon. 96 GTP 5 Speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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