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sonyman87

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Here are the symptoms. i have wires just sitting in the engine bay hooked up to nothing! But the car will start and it will run everything works. except the following.

1. no power from altinator

2. no Low oil or battery warning light even with sub 10volt operation and the oil level sensor unplugged.

not sure whatelse isnt working but the power windows still work.

 

note: the altinator has zero miles and is properly hooked up. I beleve there is a communication problem. I believe the car dosnt know that it has low volts so it dosnt charge. It dosn't even know if there is even oil in the pan. Dosnt care just runs.

 

What should i be looking for?

 

btw!

already layed 2 feet of blackmarks in the driveway doing a "light" 1400-1600rpm hole shot. Woot! :burnout: no problem at all. the 3800s2 has nothing on this.

 

 

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let me ask this another way.

 

Where is the voltage regulator for the altinator, or where is th altinator pluging into?

the main computer under the hood? other controler?

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ok the main computer is under the hood on the passenger side near the headlight. The regulator is in the alternator. i believe the big red wire comes from the battery, then the plug i believe 3 pin, one goes to the computer, one to the ignition. I will read my manual tonight for some insight to the issue

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ok the main computer is under the hood on the passenger side near the headlight. The regulator is in the alternator. i believe the big red wire comes from the battery, then the plug i believe 3 pin, one goes to the computer, one to the ignition. I will read my manual tonight for some insight to the issue

 

im positive the alt is plugged in correctly. im assuming a short or cut wire maybe im going to try and find time next weekend to hunt down some wires. i check a bunch last weekend and there are some i have no idea where they go.

 

the puzzleing question is why isnt the dash light reporting a dead battery. Yes the lightbulb works and all bulbs pass POST.

Is it the altinators v-regulator's job alone to charge the battery or does it needs commands from the computer?

just a note: there is a FFP underdrive pully in the system not that should make any difference.

 

 

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well the battery light on our cars in usually the last light to come on before the battery dies, gotta love gms. usually the abs light or airbag light stays on

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What are these! and where is their HOME!

Still haveing charging issues.

I unpluged the altinator data cable and it was full of silicone i cleaned a little out and pluged it back in but it didnt work, still no charge. i just cant imagine a bad altinator out of the box. :willynilly:

 

Help me identify these wires!

 

Misc Plug #1 Next to the Computer

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Misc Plug #2 right below the Intake.

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ftp://www.stjulianaworld.com:4001/DSC00030.JPG

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Mic Plug #3 im pretty sure this is just a test wire but posting just incase also next to intake

ftp://www.stjulianaworld.com:4001/DSC00032.JPG

 

Misc Plug #4 right next to the Oil filter . View = Ground looking Up

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ftp://www.stjulianaworld.com:4001/DSC00034.JPG

 

Misc Plug #5 also next to the oil filter. View = ground looking up

ftp://www.stjulianaworld.com:4001/DSC00035.JPG

ftp://www.stjulianaworld.com:4001/DSC00036.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

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ok this may take a minute.

plug 1 looks like it goes to the canister below the computer, looks like a red plug

 

plug 2 not quite sure. i know someone on the board knows

 

plug 3fuel pump test wire. leave unconnected

 

plug 4 looks to be for the knock sensor right next to the oil filter. Could be wrong but my best guess

 

plug 5 goes to the oil pressure sending unit also nearby to the oil filter. 3 wire, tan, orange,and one other color. pretty hard to miss

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plug 2 looks too big to be the underhood light and does not have a blue seal. and also looks to large for the IAT also. there is a sensor below the TB but i dont remember what it is. I know it isnt the IAC but maybe the black TPS below it

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plug 1 looks like the plug that would plug in the power steering pump on cars equip with NV7

 

My guess, but Luminas never came with MagnaSteer...

 

2 - coolant temp sensor

 

4 - ??? Never seen that on the front side...It looks like it's for the fan sensor on the front head.

 

5 - oil pressure sensor

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Ok so far we have the following votes

 

 

Plug 1

power steering?

Canister below teh computer?

 

Plug 2

coolant temp - nope already plugged in

TPS -throttle positing is plugged in. so nope

light?

IAT plug?

 

plug 3 - fuel test wire confirmed

 

plug 4

Knock Sensor?

 

plug 5

oil pressure?

oil preasure x2 ?

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