w-bodys_are_the_best Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I did a search and came up with nothing, and the W-body Haynes book sucks because it's covering too many years and doesn't get specific enough. I need to pick up my garage light I couldn't see anything in there today. I gotta remove the filter, and there is a rubber line, from what I gather it goes to an oil cooler? I'm going to tackle this in the morning but would like some tips/info about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 you are on the right track. you may have a few issues getting it to clear a few lines, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 a/c lines to the compressor might be in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moto_ty Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 when i did my starter i was able to get it around all that stuff. it's kinda hard but can be done. all i did was remove the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 you gotta remove the oil filter to get that massive starter out, and with some swearing yelling and overall fun it will come out. I just had to play that game. thank god for 3x00 starters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderw31 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 when i did my starter i was able to get it around all that stuff. it's kinda hard but can be done. all i did was remove the filter. x2. Thats exactly how I did it. If I ever have to do it again (which I hope I don't) I'll get a 3400 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I have a 3100 starter from my 94 yet, Would that be smaller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 i've never removed a line, hose, or filter to do a starter on any w-body including a TGP and 3.4 with oil coolers. once it is unbolted rotate the top toward front of car to get the solenoid clear of everything then you can wiggle the back end of the starter out and get easy access to the wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I've done the starters on my 94 and 96 clutlass's and my brother's 94, but they were all 3100's and were easy, this looks like it won't move back even 1/4 inch without pulling the oil cooler line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderw31 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 You should be able to get it out around the cooler line, it just takes a bit of persuasion. After I removed the oil filter, I was able to flex the cooler line enough to get the starter around it and it finally dropped out the bottom. Getting the new one in though was a royal pain though, which is why I would recommend the 3400 starter. I just wish I had known about it when I went to do the job I dunno about the 3100 starter though, so I can't help you there. Also, I don't doubt that Pat is right, as there are so mnay ways you can twist, rotate and wedge that starter to try to get it out. I just gave up trying to find that way since it's so easy to pull the oil filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I was looking, I got a spare 3.4 starter with the motor parts he gave me, I'm going to compare it with the 3100 starter, but the 3100 starter will work if it's smaller? If not, I might check around for a newer 3400 starter. I haven't done anything yet being lazy and I gota do some running around, I might pull it out of there later tonight. here is a pic, the back of the starter on the right, and that line, which just loops back around to the block, doesn't make any sense unless there's suppose to be an oil cooler, and mine doesn't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 actually that is a very good picture of your oil cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 You should be able to use the 3100 starter, however even the 1994 3100 starter is a freaking beast. Get a newer 3400 one. Its much smaller and will be easier to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGTP Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 when i did my starter i was able to get it around all that stuff. it's kinda hard but can be done. all i did was remove the filter. x2. Thats exactly how I did it. If I ever have to do it again (which I hope I don't) I'll get a 3400 starter. It's what I make .. MOORRE EASY ! lol it's 'stupide' to put or remove the starter with the smalest 3400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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