ES Contorl arm bushings?

[jmoore4294]

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/Energy-Suspension-Universal-Link-Flange-Type-Bushings.asp

 

 

If taken the right measurements, could I use these for our control arms instead of buying the entire unit?

[dohc v6]

Yes I think it would for sure. I have to look into these.

[xtremerevolution]

I'm interested in these as well. Would these make a big difference?

[CSI_MuNkY]

Are you talking for front control arms? or rear trailing arms/lateral links?

 

If you mean the front control arms I don't think those will work... We have 2 different bushings on our arms, they are totally different sizes.

Here is a pic of the forward mounted bushings, they are a pressed fit into the arm

 

Unfortunately I do not have a pic of the rearward mounted bushing, your best bet is to get one from a wreckers, have them pressed out by a machine shop and take the measurements you need. If you press out the ones on your car and find that they will not fit you will have to replace the ones you have now with stock rubber ones ($15 each give or take)

 

FWIW, Held is making tubular front control arms with greaseable poly bushings.

 

 

Now, if your talking for the rear arms, then yes those will work, that is exactly how the Held bushings are assembled on his tubular arms.

 

Jamie

[jmoore4294]

Yeah. I'm talking front control arms. And I don't have the money to drop for Held tubular ones. Though it would be nice, but it would be cheaper just to upgrade the bushing on my existing ones. And where would Held be getting their poly bushings from? Custom made ones?

[GutlessSupreme]

Pressing our bushings in and out is a BITCH! I bent one of my control arms getting the new ones in... trashy stamped steel I ended up saying fuck it and getting a lower mileage pair off ebay, which worked out since my arms had a lot of rot in them anyway.

[CSI_MuNkY]

Pressing our bushings in and out is a BITCH! I bent one of my control arms getting the new ones in... trashy stamped steel I ended up saying fuck it and getting a lower mileage pair off ebay, which worked out since my arms had a lot of rot in them anyway.

 

I had a machine shop do mine. Cost me $25, he wanted $40 if he had to do them right away, so I left them over night, lol. I wasn't going to even bother trying, I knew they had special presses to avoid squishing the arms.

 

Helds Poly bushings are mostly made in house, he machines his own out of poly urethane blocks, unless of course ES or someone else makes them (for example the spring dampeners that go on the upper spring mount of the coil over kits).

 

If you can't fork over the cash for his arms, keep 2 things in mind...

 

1. His arms WILL be available on an ongoing basis. I can't afford them this year, but he knows I want them at some point.

 

2. (if 1 is still not an option) your best bet is to go to the wreckers, get one control arm off a wrecked w-body. Take that arm to a machine shop and ask to have the bushings pressed out of it. Then you can take all your measurements. You might even try sending pics to ES to see if they have anything that works, if not try PST ( http://www.p-s-t.com ).

 

If it were me, I'd be trying to get them from PST. All their poly is graphite impregnated, so it never needs to be greased.

 

Jamie

[Olds W31]

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/products.asp?cat=1478

 

GM is frugal. The same PN bushings (lower control arm) is used in the 1988 RWD Cutlass. That means that you can order the same poly lower bushings in what ever color to fit the RWD, and use them on the FWD. At least, that's how the interchange worked for my 1994.

 

AC Delco Forward Bushing PN 45g11058

AC Delco Rear Bushing PN 45g11059

AC Delco PN interchange web site:

http://198.208.187.182/internet/VehiclePartFits.jsp?part=45g11059&autosel=A&pageno=5

[Olds W31]

Emailed P-S-T if they will sell just the lower bushings. Will update with answer.

[PCGUY112887]

FWIW, Held is making tubular front control arms with greaseable poly bushings.

Uh... where? When? Anymore info? You have me excited now

[CSI_MuNkY]

FWIW, Held is making tubular front control arms with greaseable poly bushings.

Uh... where? When? Anymore info? You have me excited now

 

Nothing new about it... there hasn't been an update in a while as this is Lee's busy time of year, not the best time for developing a new product.

 

Group buy...

http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=66349.0

 

Jamie

[jmoore4294]

Emailed P-S-T if they will sell just the lower bushings. Will update with answer.

 

Any update?

[Olds W31]

Sorry, I went on vacation and have to clean out over 1000 emails.....I don't think it was in there, but I will call PST in the morning. I need a set for my Protege, too.

[Olds W31]

Spoke with Lee at P-S-T. The sell a full kit, upper and lowers, for a 1988 Olds Cutlass RWD for $99 in PolyGraphite. The Pn is GNSP00427B. Obvoiusly we don't need the uppers (beauty of McPherson struts), but you could sell the uppers on Ebay or equivalent, as they tend to take most of the wear in a RWD car and require more frequent replacement.

 

You can order just the lowers, which is all we need, for $20 each, or a total of $80. Call Lee at 800.247.2288 ext 369.

 

I have run P-S-T in both a 1989 Caprice and a 1993 Suburban. The BIG difference between them and Energy Suspension is that P-S-T DOES NOT SQUEAK like ES seems to, especially in colder conditions. I ran ES Poly's in a 1979 Caprice I had and they drove me NUTS...but that could just be me....

[CSI_MuNkY]

The BIG difference between them and Energy Suspension is that P-S-T DOES NOT SQUEAK like ES seems to, especially in colder conditions.

 

Thats because the ES bushings are merely poly urethane. where as the PST bushings are all graphite impregnated.

 

I'm writing down that number, have to keep those in mind if I end up with the arms off the car again.

 

Jamie