shadow Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I cannot find 1 or 2 charging points on the car? I see the one with the black cap but where is the other? This is a 90 TGP. Is the black the lo side btw? Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltboy1 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 you aren't gona be able to charge it unless it's been converted or you can get your hands on the old R12 I think it was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 IIRC: both caps should be black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 you aren't gona be able to charge it unless it's been converted or you can get your hands on the old R12 I think it was... yeah I gonna try one of those R13 conversion systems since I have had success with them on prior cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleeingpepper Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Haha! Best not doing R12. It's illegal and hasn't been made in 13 years! That means it will be hard to find and incredibly expensive! EDIT: So I say something other than "you're screwed!". Flush ALL the fluid out and replace it with r134a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Could always try those other products like FREEZE 12...dunno if anyone on here used any but it was discussed last year on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclehotte Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Just type in R12 on ebay....you would be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 i would definitely use r12 if I could get my hands on it...it is colder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 There is a lower charge point right next to the turbo.. you have to look way down there and you will see it pointing toward the turbo. The other is on top and in the open. I suggest you replace the O-rings on your AC system so it doesn't leak, then have it vacuumed down. After that, add a few ounces of PAG oil and 2-3 cans of R-134A and your AC will be ICE cold. I did exactly that to my TGP last summer and on a 90* day, it got the interior temperature down to 42*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 There is a lower charge point right next to the turbo.. you have to look way down there and you will see it pointing toward the turbo. The other is on top and in the open. I suggest you replace the O-rings on your AC system so it doesn't leak, then have it vacuumed down. After that, add a few ounces of PAG oil and 2-3 cans of R-134A and your AC will be ICE cold. I did exactly that to my TGP last summer and on a 90* day, it got the interior temperature down to 42*. I cant find the one on top where is it? I see one lower though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It is right next to the other one, only this one is higher up and it points straight upward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It is right next to the other one, only this one is higher up and it points straight upward. Do I have to remove wiring or anything under the turbo because I looked really hard and didn't see one pointing to the turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I know where to get shit loads of R12. And its NOT illegal. You just have to have a license to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 And its NOT illegal. You just have to have a license to buy it. QFT. And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I can take a picture tomorrow for you showing where the ports are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal. x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal. x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a. Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder. Are you going by "feel" or actual measurements? The typical difference is so minute, that a human cannot discern the difference. If you could actually feel a difference, chances are something isn't operating 100% and causing reduced performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey b Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 the difference is quite large actually. I believe the output from the vent is 5 to 10* colder with R12. You can convert a R12 system to R134 because they run on at the same ambient temperature and internal pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to eaton Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 my gp doesnt blow out cold at all but its not really hot.. maybe just a charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal. x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a. Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder. QFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to eaton Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 WTF does that mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I can take a picture tomorrow for you showing where the ports are. Thanks man I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 WTF does that mean Quoted For Truth. Shadow, do you have a TGP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 WTF does that mean it's for those with HS diplomas to know and those with GEDs to wonder about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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