meltboy1 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Well I was at the yard today and saw a 94 sunbird 2.0 I believe with a 5spd.. I couldn't get a good look under to find any kind of markings, would that tranny, assuming it's good, be a good idea for a swap into a W-body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBULS Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Well I was at the yard today and saw a 94 sunbird 2.0 I believe with a 5spd.. I couldn't get a good look under to find any kind of markings, would that tranny, assuming it's good, be a good idea for a swap into a W-body? That, I believe has the Izusu tranny..........this means it's geared short(er) and the diff will go BOOM when subjected to a combo of good power and peg-leg wheelspin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltboy1 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 lol... ya, I figured it was too weak, just thought I'd ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns87 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 What yard you go to up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltboy1 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 vince's you pull it near wal mart distrobution center in marcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfangd Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 definately different lol. too small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 A 2.0 will have an Isuzu. A '94 2.3 Quad 4 should have a NVG T550 (Getrag 282) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltboy1 Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 oo ok, thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I believe the Sunbird tranny has a different bellhousing too, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I think any 4 cyl would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBULS Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I think any 4 cyl would Actually, I know that the OHV 2.2L's share a bellhousing with the V6's............Quads are a bunch different though. Not sure about the 2.0 SOHC's.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w-bodys_are_the_best Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 They did make sunbird GT's with a 3.1 and a 5-speed, though extremely rare, they are the same as a Z24 cav 3.1 5spd. The J-body's also got a getrag 282 with the 3.1 and 2.8 V6's, but they do not have the same mounting provisions as a W-body's 282, they will not work in a W. I have personally seen 2 Sunbird GT 3.1 5spd's. I have already done some research into this awhile back because I had gotten ahold of a j-body 282 and wanted to put it in my 96 CS. The 4 bangers (except the Quad4) got an Isuzu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlassdude96 Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 the SOHC Q4's had the Isuzu tranny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to eaton Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Yeah my cavalier was a 3.1 5 speed. the mounts are diffrent.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1QUICKHATCH Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 dose any one have any pic's of the w-body mounts for the 5spd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Efficiency Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The sunbird 2.0 ohc motor has its own bellhousing seperate from the quad and the 3.1/2.2. All NA 2.0's got the isuzu but if its a turbo 5 speed bird the it has the getrag 282, but only the turbo ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 While we're talking 5spds, what would be in a early 90's(I can't remember exactly what year it was) Grand Am with a Quad 4 HO engine? Would the internal parts of this transaxle be the same as those found in the W-body Getrag 282's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 All HOs had a 282 for a 5 speed, but their gear ratios are different (not to our benefit). Supposed ratios are: the std. Quad 4 box: 3.50/2.05/1.38/1.03/.81/3.61 (87-9? Olds, Buick, Pontiac, Chevy) the HO Quad 4 box: 3.50/2.05/1.38/1.03/.81/3.94 (late '91-94 only) I can't remember where I got that info, it might've been v6z24.com. '91+ 282s also have a better diff (which is swappable). I don't know if any specific internal parts are different besides that, but they're all supposed to be swappable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The Buick was never offered with manual trans on a Q4.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Thanks Manic, I should mention this is rough info from all sorts of sources that I'm still trying to sort through/verify. So the Skylark/Sommerset never came with a Q4/Getrag? I'm pretty sure the Skyhawk 2.0T had a Getrag, but they never had Q4s I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 No, the Somerset only had a 5 speed option in 1985-1987 and that was the 2.5 using an Isuzu trans. The Skylark was not offered after 1987 with a manual with 1988 being the first year to have the Q4...Even the Gran Sports were all automatics. And you are correct that the Skyhawk was never offered with the Q4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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