EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I'm a n00b. Who here has done it? On what? And how good of luck have you had with doing it? Been mulling over in my mind doing that instead of buying a trans/am. Just want some input. Riddled with problems and dillemas, and what of reliability? would it be any less reliable being in a 1-st gen then in the original car it came from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 It's a pretty streaight forward swap... Personally, I'd build a 60* V6 though... And I'm one to talk, as an L67 is going in my van but it has a 3800 already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I dont know enough to build my own motor, lol. Flat out. If i went to a shop like an idiot asking those questions, they would gouge me for sure. This way, I at least have some inkling of an idea about what is going to be happening. I know, it's lame. I'm lame. But I love my car lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I know, it's lame. I'm lame. But I love my car lol. meh, if you love your car your not lame. but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I know, it's lame. I'm lame. But I love my car lol. meh, if you love your car your not lame. but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. That would be freaking sweet. I was wondering about costs that it would be to have to go through all the wiring and such, and wondering how much of a cost that would end up being with mechanics charging per/hour for that shit... totally understandable. I've never had any wiring problems with the car, nothing electrical so if someone DOES make a plug-play that would be awesome. On my list of things to do tomorrow is to get a couple quotes from people on having it done. This has been rolling over in my head since I started looking at new cars.. and honestly... the more I think about getting a new car the more I realize I don't want to go through tie rods, ball joints, suspension, ac/compressors, all the shit that I've just done with this one I've got now. I figure a fresh motor for her would be breathing new life. <shrug> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. That would be Brian Teel, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I know, it's lame. I'm lame. But I love my car lol. meh, if you love your car your not lame. but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. I figure a fresh motor for her would be breathing new life. <shrug> i could not agree with you more, i am thinking about doing a 3400 build for the monte. but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. That would be Brian Teel, I believe. ahh, yes i think your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.1cutlass Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I will keep my opinions of the L67 to myself. I would any day build a 60* motor over the l67. but thats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I will keep my opinions of the L67 to myself. I would any day build a 60* motor over the l67. but thats me. i dont mind the L67, hell i still want one but a well built 60* is a hell of a motor. one the the best 60*s ever!! http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 IMO the L67 is the only engine w-bodies should have ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. That would be Brian Teel, I believe. Yeah, I made his write-up a favorite. Gonna go check into that over there, see if i can find anything out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 but anyways, as far as i know the big PITA about a L67 swap is the wireing, IIRC someone makes a prewired harness that makes it plug and play. That would be Brian Teel, I believe. Yeah, I made his write-up a favorite. Gonna go check into that over there, see if i can find anything out. good luck, keep us updated if you do the swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Meh, it will happen eventually. I may just spend the money I had planned to buy a t/a with to just finish the work on the GP... I figure I'll still spend less doing that, lol. Been mulling it over, weighing out the pro's and cons of each situation. Though if I do the l67 swap, won't most of the front end work I've done be worthless? At least CVs.. but who knows. I read some but I'm still partially clueless and need to do discussions with mechanics while examining the beastie on a lift. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I will keep my opinions of the L67 to myself. I would any day build a 60* motor over the l67. but thats me. Yeah...building a 3.1 to run low 16's instead of building an L67 and run 13's with less money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I will keep my opinions of the L67 to myself. I would any day build a 60* motor over the l67. but thats me. Yeah...building a 3.1 to run low 16's instead of building an L67 and run 13's with less money ??? Spend more money building the 3.1 Spend less money to put in l67, run same times? Or am I really just utterly confused by that statement? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I was just referring to the statement of "I'd rather build a 60* motor than an L67." Build a 3100 for example...spend X amount of money on it to not even break out of the high 15's. Spend half that on modding an L67 and you're high/mid 13's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I was just referring to the statement of "I'd rather build a 60* motor than an L67." Build a 3100 for example...spend X amount of money on it to not even break out of the high 15's. Spend half that on modding an L67 and you're high/mid 13's. I was hoping that was what you meant... The biggest part of it for me... I can't help but find the Series II 3800 "Supercharged" one of the sexiest things to open a hood and see. I don't know why, I just do. <shrug> That... and the damn car has eaten three 3.1's (Car, or driver? lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloDude Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 The biggest part of it for me... I can't help but find the Series II 3800 "Supercharged" one of the sexiest things to open a hood and see. I don't know why, I just do. <shrug> i got a few pic's of some nice L67's on my myspace, god i have not checked on my myspace in a long time. well anyways here it is if you want to check out some pics. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=205464992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 If you need the full vehicle wiring diagrams, hit me up. I have all of them available at my fingertips through Mitchell and Identifix (AllData/OEM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 You can build a 60* ( 2000+ 3100 or 3400/3500 ) to run with an L67 for the cost of an L67 swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 If it's around long enough and I have the time/money, I'd love to swap a 3400 into the TGP and turbo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EviLette Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 You can build a 60* ( 2000+ 3100 or 3400/3500 ) to run with an L67 for the cost of an L67 swap. I've got a 3.1, so that's out. The only way I would build up a 60* is if I had a 5 speed to air up with it.. 3400 seems do-able, but 3.1/3100 just seems weaksauce to put that kind of money into. B'sides, maybe I like big motors? (Not that a 3800 is HUGE or anything... but still much more impressive than a 3100.. its about sound too, imho.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I thought about doing an L67 swap, and if my LQ1 ever kills itself, thats what will be going in. But for now, my mind is set on building up the LQ1. Going to be a bigger learning curve for me, but the L67 swap seems to be the swap everyone does, but a built (and turbo'd) LQ1, now the people that have done that in w-bodies, I could probably count on 1 hand, that I know of at least. Brian Teel used to do full swaps, he'd get the motor and all that ready to go, you go spend a few days with him doing the swap and presto... Q-ball was going to do that before he bought his house. I don't know if Brian still offers that up to people or not. And I can't remember his price. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 would it be any less reliable being in a 1-st gen then in the original car it came from? Nope, cause 96 buicks got the 3800 series 2. In the first gen! I thought about doing an L67 swap, and if my LQ1 ever kills itself, thats what will be going in. But for now, my mind is set on building up the LQ1. Going to be a bigger learning curve for me, but the L67 swap seems to be the swap everyone does, but a built (and turbo'd) LQ1, now the people that have done that in w-bodies, I could probably count on 1 hand, that I know of at least. Brian Teel used to do full swaps, he'd get the motor and all that ready to go, you go spend a few days with him doing the swap and presto... Q-ball was going to do that before he bought his house. I don't know if Brian still offers that up to people or not. And I can't remember his price. Jamie Yeah, Im butt poor now. I believe Brian Teel was doing the swaps for 1200 - 1500. Fathead has also down some L67 swaps and he priced me i think 700-800 to do it. Dont get me wrong, but BT can get the harness, which is from a monte carlo I think and it makes it plug and play. I was ready to drop about 4000 on the swap with some minor mods to get me started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodolds Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 The one thing to remember is that the '92 is OBD-I, and ANY L67 is OBD-II. It will be more involved, wiring-wise, than a car that had an L67 already in it. Since I HATE wiring, I'm not the guy to talk to, but Brian Teel is knowledgable about this, and could probably help you out anyways. Good luck...I like my L67 Cutty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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