Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 My uncle replaced my brakes yesterday. I got Wearever Gold brake pads for the front, and for the rear I've got Duralast brake pads. They were a pain in the butt to put on, but we got them on there. then we had to go find a 12mm x 1.75 pitch bolt for the right rear brake caliper(bracket). Because we lost one of the originals. No autoparts store had them(all they had were soft 8.0 aluminum, and we needed a 10.9 hardened steel bolt). So we finally found one at Frank Z Chevrolet, down near Stewart, and Brown Street. Then we lost a whole set of lugs in the snow so we had to go get a new set of those. Finally got all the brakes changed and she rides good now, and the vibration I once had in the front end while braking is gone now to. Thank God I got them changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 So we finally found one at Frank Z Chevrolet, down near Stewart, and Brown Street. BAHAHAHAH!! I worked there not three weeks ago! You couldn't have done this then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 LOL!!! That would've been cool though. YEah I had to wait to get some money to do the brakes. And I have advice for everyone. If you don't have garage to work in try to change brakes in the summer, cause doin it in the winter is a huge PAIN IN THE ASS!!!! but it's doable. And don't wait until the day a snowstorm is supposed to move in(that was dumb on my part), but it worked out because I had good brakes to drive around on the bad roads afterwards, it took us two days to change just four sets of brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 1st gen brakes suck to change...lol, at least from my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 w body brakes don't faze me. why all the hubbub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 w body brakes don't faze me. why all the hubbub? Same here. It usually takes me 15 minutes to change the pads on each side once the wheels are off. The front rotors now are an entirely different story. That large torx bolt sometimes takes a 2-foot lead pipe to unscrew, and even then you still have to put all your weight into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well thats good you got em fixed! 1st gen brakes suck to change...lol, at least from my experience. false statements I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 w body brakes don't faze me. why all the hubbub? Same here. It usually takes me 15 minutes to change the pads on each side once the wheels are off. The front rotors now are an entirely different story. That large torx bolt sometimes takes a 2-foot lead pipe to unscrew, and even then you still have to put all your weight into it. I've never had a problem with those T60 bolts. A standard breaker bar will do it. Both my w-bodies were lifetime Michigan cars too. Now the rears are well worth bitching about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Now the rears are well worth bitching about. re: 93- rears QFT. I took several tries but I am now a master rebuilder of them. I "ghetto" ream and reboot the rear slides, grease em well, and make sure not to pierce the boots which is EXTREMELY easy to do while reinstalling them. then, after doing that, they are merely ok. I upgrade them to 94+ if I am ready to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Why put crappy pads in the front and decent pads in the rear?? That makes no sense. Should got either Bendix or Duralast Golds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 w body brakes don't faze me. why all the hubbub? Same here. It usually takes me 15 minutes to change the pads on each side once the wheels are off. The front rotors now are an entirely different story. That large torx bolt sometimes takes a 2-foot lead pipe to unscrew, and even then you still have to put all your weight into it. I've never had a problem with those T60 bolts. A standard breaker bar will do it. Both my w-bodies were lifetime Michigan cars too. Now the rears are well worth bitching about. Here are some quotes from my front rotor upgrade thread: who was it that had to take a cutting wheel to the bracket to get the rotor off? Yeah, sometimes they can be quite a bitch to get off. I've broken off a T60 clean inside of one of those damn bolts. I had to use a pipe wrench with a 2 foot bar over it to get those turned. The calipers need a T-60 torx bit for the two bolts that hold the brackets on. I'll give you a fair warning, those were a huge bitch to get loose. Even with some liquid wrench, they took some really hard pushing. I would highly suggest finding an impact wrench to take those off if you can. If not, get yourself a nice long socket wrench because you'll need the extra torque. Tip: Next time you go to do those, turn your front wheel all the way, so you have tons of leverage. Stick a pipe over your wrench, and go to town. Breaks loose in no time. I was using a 450ft-lb impact, didn't budge. Damn. These bolts aren't that hard to get off. I've ran into it. Like I said, the one time I had to do it, a 450 ft-lb impact wrench was already attempted on them, with no luck. http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=63378.0 Be ready if you ever decide to replace your front rotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Im glad I have a good T60 socket and a IR 2135TI impact gun (FTMFW!!!) Those bolts dont stand a chance to over 700ftlb torque Using the breaker bar like I have so many times in the past is just a pain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 air tools FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodolds Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I've never had any real issues up front. Turn the wheels, and get a good breaker bar, and have at it. No real big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 air tools FTW! Yes, and the Matco guys says FTW everytime he sees me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 The biggest problem for us was that on the new brakes on the rear, the caliper kept hitting the shims on the back of the brake pads. So we had to remove the shims(which won't/haven't hurt it) on the rear pads. Then the rear caliper pistons has fittings on it to fit the pin on the back of the rear brake pads, which come to find out later you could rotate(with needle nose pliers) to fit the pins on the pads, and that took us a while to figure out cause we couldn't fit the caliper over the brake pads, we eventually cut the pin off the pad and it's been fine since. We started on the front brakes a day before we started the rear & a snow storm moved in on us, and we lost some parts in the snow(lug nuts, etc..). Had to wait 24 hours and finish the front and the next day do the rear. It was crazy!!! Next time I'm finding a garage we can work in that way it would be a hell of whole lot easier to do things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 w body brakes don't faze me. why all the hubbub? Same here. It usually takes me 15 minutes to change the pads on each side once the wheels are off. The front rotors now are an entirely different story. That large torx bolt sometimes takes a 2-foot lead pipe to unscrew, and even then you still have to put all your weight into it. Well my uncle had a 1/2 inch breaker bar which took care of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Why put crappy pads in the front and decent pads in the rear?? That makes no sense. Should got either Bendix or Duralast Golds... I have only one word for that: MONEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Be ready if you ever decide to replace your front rotors. Got those changed to, and they were pretty easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Be ready if you ever decide to replace your front rotors. Got those changed to, and they were pretty easy. Some people aren't as lucky. Me in particular. It took me a bit of work to get those torx bolts out. I got them out eventually, but it was still a PITA. Also, you can quote multiple people in the same thread. Its much easier to read it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GrandPrixlover1 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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