rockfangd Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 recently i noticed something that worries me on my 94 cutlass. when i turn the key on everything comes on normal but when i turn the key to start sometimes it will not turn over for a few seconds. It is kind of hard to explain but i can say that the security light does not seem to be the issue as i have had that problem before. so basically when i try to start the car i have to hold the key and after a few seconds it turns right over and fires. No issues when i use my car starter i might add. That is what i use when it doesnt want to turn over Quote
Psych0matt Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 check your grounds. Im pretty sure I need to reground everything, because half the time mine will just clikc and not turn, but its never not started after some trying Quote
1990lumina Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Sounds like a loose or dirty connection. Slick can probably let us all know how a remote starter is wired..but I figure whatever is part of the igntion back of where the starter is wired in is where the problem is. Quote
slick Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 The remote start shouldn't really cause that sort of issue. Sounds like a failing ignition switch to me. Quote
toms92gpse Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 If you here just one click and nothing most of the time its just the starter sileniod. Mine has been doing the On click and nothing since I bought it in nov. 02 and it still starts fine for me if I release the key and turn it again. I would be happy if it quit all together so I can get a mini starter for it and have an excuse for it. If you don't here that one click then it maybe the switch not even getting power to the sileniod. Quote
rockfangd Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Posted January 22, 2008 well thats the problem i hear nothing, then it just starts turning over and it is fine. I wonder if it also has something to do with the voltage problem. When the car starter is running the car the voltage is perfect even with the parking lights on. but when i push the brake to disable the starter sometimes It gets down to 12 volts. weird. Quote
1990lumina Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 The remote start shouldn't really cause that sort of issue. Sounds like a failing ignition switch to me. Â No I meant to figure out where the starter wires to, and then work back towards the ignition from there, as it seems the remote start always works. Quote
rockfangd Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Posted January 22, 2008 yeah it is weird but it always works. It is wired in right under the dash. A thought occured to my though. It is a codealarm and part of the install you have to cut the starter wire and one wire goes to the starter side and the other goes to the ignition side. But everything looks good under the dash from what i can see. Quote
slick Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Depending on how good the install was, it may have a moment that it takes for the current to flow through the relay pack. Â And, the only reason to cut the starter wire is for a starter kill. Otherwise, just hooking up the motor side of the 2 starter wires up will do the job. Quote
rockfangd Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Posted January 22, 2008 i figured that but at the tim i was not sure. I hate cutting factory wires Quote
boulevard Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 I've had issues starting up my '93 Lumina Z34. Try this, it works for me. Christines always been a bitch to start but I've done this to help out and it works great. Next time you want to start your car, turn the key to the on position, listen for the fuel pump, it'll whine and then stop. Turn the key on the off position and pull out of the ignition. Wait 5 seconds and repeat about 6 times. Then go ahead a start her up. I know Christine does this because I'm starting to have issues of her not starting when I please. I can't even use my remote start much because she won't start unless the fuel pump is primed. Good Luck. Quote
Psych0matt Posted January 23, 2008 Report Posted January 23, 2008 well, mine decided to make me a half hour late for work yesterday, just sat there and clicked. She finally started, and then after work, I used my remote to start her (3 times, because she has a timer, and we didn't get done with work as soon as we thought) and she started up every time. I think as soon as it's warm I'm gonna have Ken help me redo all the grounds, because I can't think of any other reason for mine to do this Quote
rockfangd Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Posted January 25, 2008 well i am still at a loss on this problem, but i am so short on time for trying to figure it out Quote
89GP_SE Posted January 25, 2008 Report Posted January 25, 2008 it may be the tumbler itself, youknow what i mean right lol. Happened on my gp, I could turn it to start, but it wouldnt, but if I held it there for a couple of seconds and fiddled with it it would just work. I say get another tumbler 50 bucks at the stealership and two new keys. Quote
rockfangd Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Posted January 25, 2008 i was thinking about that. I was hoping it wouldnt be that but it could be. any possible way to try to confirm this Quote
slick Posted January 25, 2008 Report Posted January 25, 2008 If the remote start is functioning properly, yet your key in the ignition to start it isn't, it's not a remote start problem, it's an ignition switch problem. Quote
89GP_SE Posted January 26, 2008 Report Posted January 26, 2008 ditto, you could take the tumbler out, and manually push the lever/spring, whatever the tumbler pushes on. Many times the tumbler just doesnt catch it, try slanting your key to the right as you turn it. Thats how I figured out it was my tumbler. Quote
rockfangd Posted January 26, 2008 Author Report Posted January 26, 2008 i will try that tomorrow Quote
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