Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I think my tranny is the cause of the grinding noise I have been hearing. Anyone know how much I am looking at ballpark? Its a 95 GP with the 4T60-E. AAMCO a good choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Looking at least $1300 for any O/D transaxle rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 How hard is it to get it out and do it myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Removal, not bad. Rebuild, don't If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. Especially a trans rebuild, if you haven't done it before, don't. It's not a old school turbo 350 where a rebuild is almost idiot proof. One small screw up that seems insignificant at that time will turn into you doing everything all over again. Go to a parts store, buy a reman for ~$1100, go to a junkyard and get one for ~$200, pay a tranny shop ~$1700, or sell/scrap the car. Doing something like this unexperienced will turn into a nightmare. The car is only worth about $2K, so ya gotta weigh your options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. So your saying when people ask stuff on here; ie-most of the posts, they shouldn't do it if they are asking how difficult it is?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Something like ripping a trans out and rebuild, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I was thinking more removing the tranny and replacing with a J/Y one. I realize I don't have the knowledge or equipment to rebuild a tranny. It is going to the shop on Monday to verify the tranny is gone before I take it apart. Might go and pick one up tomorrow though. Is under $100. I don't think asking how difficult something is should automatically disqualify you from attempting it. Though I do agree transmission work is outside of the skill set of most of us. I just wasn't sure how difficult it was to drop the tranny out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. My driver's side front tire looks quite low. How hard is it to fill it back up so its at the proper pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. My driver's side front tire looks quite low. How hard is it to fill it back up so its at the proper pressure? Good job on making yourself look like an idiot, once again from several posts you have made that I have seen... His was an honest question that is very labor intensive, your comment is just purely ignorant. If you think you can pull and replace your trans, that is a good start. Grab a repair manual and read the section on it a couple times. Junkyard is prolly the best bet. Just make sure they give you a warrenty of some sorts on it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. My driver's side front tire looks quite low. How hard is it to fill it back up so its at the proper pressure? Good job on making yourself look like an idiot, once again from several posts you have made that I have seen... His was an honest question that is very labor intensive, your comment is just purely ignorant. I was ripping on you, Blackbird, for making an idiotic statement. I don't see a problem with asking how hard a job is to do. Statements like this are pure ignorance. If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. Not all of us were born with a wrench in our hands, and there's nothing wrong with asking how difficult a job is if you've never done it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 i paid ~300 for a JY trans, and ~300 for a swap a few years ago. probably the best way I could;ve done it. And i agree with blackbird, if you have to ask, most likely it's going to be too difficult. airing up your tires, if it was really that difficult, there wouldnt be air stations at the gas stations. Now, if there was a transmission swap station at the gas station, I'd say go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. My driver's side front tire looks quite low. How hard is it to fill it back up so its at the proper pressure? THIS is an ignorant statement. If you don't have something to add to the topic then stay out. If you have to ask how difficult something is, don't do it. So your saying when people ask stuff on here; ie-most of the posts, they shouldn't do it if they are asking how difficult it is?! Something as difficult as a tranny rebuild is not easy to give directions, especially on the net. It's more like "if you have to ask, you need to get an education on it". A trans rebuilder either needs years of experience, or some time at school to be taught the fundamentals and how to go about rebuilding transmissions. I was able to do it with the help of someone with experience, yet something still went wrong and had to take it out again anyway. But regardless that's not what the original poster is going to do. Getting a junkyard tranny is a good idea, but are you sure your trans is the cause of your grinding sound? How is it otherwise acting? How is the fluid level and condition? The oil pump will make a grind like noise if the fluid is low, and air is mixed with the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremerevolution Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Looking at least $1300 for any O/D transaxle rebuild I paid $1150 for my 4T60-E rebuild, which included a new torque converter. I'm sure you could get it done for $1100 or even $1000 if you have some friends. Finding a matching tranny for your car in a J/Y isn't always as easy as it sounds. If you try it, make sure the car you're pulling from has the same final drive ratio, or driving that thing will suck pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 AAMCO a good choice? Whatever you do in regards to this transmission, DO NOT take it to AAMCO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 AAMCO a good choice? Whatever you do in regards to this transmission, DO NOT take it to AAMCO. x a million. Why do you think AAMCO and MAACO are so alike? Because they do shitty hack-jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Looking at least $1300 for any O/D transaxle rebuild I paid $1150 for my 4T60-E rebuild, which included a new torque converter. I'm sure you could get it done for $1100 or even $1000 if you have some friends. Finding a matching tranny for your car in a J/Y isn't always as easy as it sounds. If you try it, make sure the car you're pulling from has the same final drive ratio, or driving that thing will suck pretty bad. How do I find the drive ratio? I thought they were all the same if it had the same engine and tranny in the same year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I just heard from the transmission shop and the chain is stretched. $1,600 for a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdo12 Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 If you are competent with a wrench, you can probably replace it yourself with a jy one. If I am unsure, I practice on a JY car. All depends how much time you want to invest doing your homework. Gives you a good idea as to whether or not its in your realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I am confident enough to know I could pull and replace the tranny, but I don't know what I will end up with in the end from the j/y. Could be same problem in a month or never. I am going the rebuild route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdo12 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Its simple to find one... you want red fluid, and a car with body damage. Body damage will (most of the time) tell you the car is there because of being totaled out, not because of a bad motor/tranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Im looking at a trans rebuild of 2500+converter. The drive ratio is deteremined by the gears and the amount of teeth on each gear: http://60degreev6.com/showthread.php?t=25032 Does this shop offer any type of warranty on their work? If so ( assuming that it is a good shop ) it would probably be worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal_GS_1989 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I am confident enough to know I could pull and replace the tranny, but I don't know what I will end up with in the end from the j/y. Could be same problem in a month or never. I am going the rebuild route. You still have to be pretty cautious with the rebuild route. Having worked at a reputable transmission shop, we've had vehicles come in with "rebuilds" from other shops that have either been hack jobs, problems that have been Patched up and then pawned off as rebuilds, and even small problems that were diagnosed as needing a rebuild by other places. Also, be aware that some shops offer warrantees that they do not honor. Basically what i'm trying to say here is to do your homework before taking the vehicle to a shop. In your case, the diagnosis sounds about right from what i've read and the price seems to be pretty close too. If they are known for doing good work, then i'd say go for it. If you were confident that you could Remove and install the transmission yourself, then you could always just get the parts and change them yourself. The chain is located in the side pan, and it doesn't appear that there is THAT much involved by looking at the diagram. http://spacecoastfieros.com/tech/440-4T60/chaindr.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Guy-GA Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I am confident enough to know I could pull and replace the tranny, but I don't know what I will end up with in the end from the j/y. Could be same problem in a month or never. I am going the rebuild route. You still have to be pretty cautious with the rebuild route. Having worked at a reputable transmission shop, we've had vehicles come in with "rebuilds" from other shops that have either been hack jobs, problems that have been Patched up and then pawned off as rebuilds, and even small problems that were diagnosed as needing a rebuild by other places. Also, be aware that some shops offer warrantees that they do not honor. Basically what i'm trying to say here is to do your homework before taking the vehicle to a shop. In your case, the diagnosis sounds about right from what i've read and the price seems to be pretty close too. If they are known for doing good work, then i'd say go for it. If you were confident that you could Remove and install the transmission yourself, then you could always just get the parts and change them yourself. The chain is located in the side pan, and it doesn't appear that there is THAT much involved by looking at the diagram. http://spacecoastfieros.com/tech/440-4T60/chaindr.gif Removing the tranny and working on it's insides are different stories. The chain slipping has let metal fragments into the system compromising it. I would rather do it right once than piece-meal twice. This is a small shop that has been around for a while. They can't afford to screw people like the big chains. Word gets around. Thanks for the help guys. She is in the shop now being worked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hope all goes well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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