MonteCarloDude Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 got my PCM from MMS today, installed it a few hours ago, and so far so good i love how it downshifts now (not like it has much top end anyways) i have to say, it was worth every last penny. i will try to get a 0-60 vid as soon as it stops raining and its somewhat warm here. Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 how much they charge for it? $226.84, the PCM was 99.99, there is a $100.00 core charge, S&H was $12.01, and tax was $14.84. Quote
Euro Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 Nice. What things did you have them do to it? Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 Nice. What things did you have them do to it? i got the MMS standard PCM, i almost got the stage 1, but i stoped myself. here is a list of everything they do to it, Removal of all speed limiters Higher shift points Higher rev limiter Shift firmness adjusted Ignition timing advanced Cooling fan control (180°) Cooling fans on at key-off for 180 seconds Rear O2 Bank code removed Etc. Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 now you need some mods to the engine... Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 now you need some mods to the engine... yep, i think my next mod will be, CAI or FWI then a 3400 intake swap. i also got a GMPP STB, but i forgot this, http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=139&catid=138 Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Posted October 12, 2007 or you could just drop in a 3400 instead of just a top end swap... Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Posted October 12, 2007 or you could just drop in a 3400 instead of just a top end swap... ya, i want to, but i would have to do it outside, maybe this spring i will. Quote
BIGBULS Posted October 17, 2007 Report Posted October 17, 2007 I'm a little late, but where does that thing shift now at WOT? With a stock/near stock W-Body L82, you should be wanting a 5900-6000rpm 1-2 shift, a 5700-5800rpm 2-3 and a 5500-5600rpm 3-4 (although I rather doubt it would actually GET there due to aerodynamic drag rearing it's ugly head). Anything more (or less), and you are leaving some performance on the table. The more airflow mods you get though, the higher the ideal shiftpoints get however...........because usually, mods make more of a difference at high rpm than low.......... Oh, and what are the kickdown threshholds (mph-wise)??? Just curious........ Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 I'm a little late, but where does that thing shift now at WOT? With a stock/near stock W-Body L82, you should be wanting a 5900-6000rpm 1-2 shift, a 5700-5800rpm 2-3 and a 5500-5600rpm 3-4 (although I rather doubt it would actually GET there due to aerodynamic drag rearing it's ugly head). Anything more (or less), and you are leaving some performance on the table. The more airflow mods you get though, the higher the ideal shiftpoints get however...........because usually, mods make more of a difference at high rpm than low.......... Oh, and what are the kickdown threshholds (mph-wise)??? Just curious........ the 1-2 shift is about 6000RPMs have not tryed the 2-3 at WOT yet, as far as the kickdown goes, i tryed before i got the PCM at 30mph and it would not go in to 1st, but the PCM was able to fix that, i have not tryed it at 35mph roll yet. il update as soon as i do. Quote
BIGBULS Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 Think of it as an excuse for some "testing". I would also slot the gear selector down into the lower gears and see if he touched the other shift tables as well.............. Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 Think of it as an excuse for some "testing". I would also slot the gear selector down into the lower gears and see if he touched the other shift tables as well.............. will do. Quote
GPX Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 Now my question...is the "standard" PCM completely standard, as in stock? I didn't think the MMS website was clear on that. Does it have the upgraded shift points? And why not go to the Stage 1? I guess we'd all like to be able to dump a bunch of money into the motor at once and do the cam/intake/exhaust thing, but that's not in my budget. But if I can upgrade my PCM and do the other things when I can afford them, that would be really cool. I guess my real question is--is there a performance penalty for having a Stage 1 or Stage 2 PCM and not having the other goodies to go with? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Stage 1 Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is specifically designed for our Stage 1 setup with induction mods, cam, heads, and exhaust mods. The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Stage 2 Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is specifically designed for our Stage 2 setup with induction mods, cam, heads, and exhaust mods. The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Custom Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is programmed to the customer's exact specifications. If your car isnt modded dont bother with the stages and just get the standard Quote
MonteCarloDude Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Posted October 18, 2007 The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Stage 1 Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is specifically designed for our Stage 1 setup with induction mods, cam, heads, and exhaust mods. The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Stage 2 Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is specifically designed for our Stage 2 setup with induction mods, cam, heads, and exhaust mods. The Milzy Motorsports 3100 Custom Powertrain Control Module (PCM) is programmed to the customer's exact specifications. If your car isnt modded dont bother with the stages and just get the standard could not have said it better myself. Quote
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