Clarke33 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Okay, I replaced the distributor drive o-ring and when I went to crank it back up, it was running like crap. The engine was surging at all different RPM's from barely running to revving at around 3K RPM. It also threw a code but I didn't check the code yet. I know I got all wiring connectors back in their locations and all vacuum line connected. What am I missing here? Quote
digitaloutsider Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 It also threw a code but I didn't check the code yet. Check the code. And you probably didn't hook the IAC or TPS up or put some vacuum line on wrong or something. Quote
Crazy K Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 hook the brake booster back up??? someithing simple and silly. maybe the temp sensor is not hooked up? Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 The only thing I took loose was 2 connectors on the throttle body, 1 on the airbox, the cluster of vacuum lines at the top of the throttle body, and 1 separate line right behind the TB. Does the fuel rail have to be bled or anything else? Quote
19Cutlass94 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 fuel rail is fine. Just re-check all the lines ( especially the vaccum lines ) and maybe an idle-relearn Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 How do you do the relearn? Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Pull ECM fuse Replace ECM fuse Start car - it will die Restart car Put in drive Let idle in drive for 5 minutes or so And it should be better Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 Thanks everyone. I'll do it tomorrow. Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Check that code though, make sure you didn't pull a vacuum line loose or accidentally unplug something. The paper clip trick works wonders since you have a '93. Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 I went to check the code but then couldn't find the DLC. I am used to seeing them under the dash on the driver's side. Where is it on a Cutlass? Quote
GutlessSupreme Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 ALDL connection is under the dash on the driver's side near the center console. you didn't forget the throttle body gasket did you? I did that once... Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 I went back and checked all sensor connections and all were connected. Then I traced all vacuum lines that I could possibly find and they were all OK as well. I also check the trouble code and it flashed a 33, which according to my book is a MAP sensor problem. What am I missing here? Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Low vacuum... Make 100% sure you didn't accidentally pull the vacuum line off, you may have also broken or pulled off a line from under the plenum. They are very easy to break. Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 I'll check again but I didn't see any broken lines. It sounds as if I may need to pull the plenum to check under it. Is that much trouble? Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 On a 3.1, it's pretty straight forward. Remove the 9 (I think, it's been awhile since I've even been in my car) bolts up top and the MAP sensor and Canister Purge Solenoid...To just check the vacuum lines, you should be able to get away with not removing the throttle body. But while you have it all apart, now is a real good time to change out the PCV valve and hose (they're always brittle). Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 I guess I'll try to do that tomorrow night after my daughters volleyball game. Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Posted September 7, 2007 I just came in from cruisin' with the top down. Yes I did get it running right but I almost hate to admit what it was.As I was getting ready to take the plenum off to check for a vacuum leak, I started taking the TB off and noticed that the gasket had slipped down about 3/4" on one side when I bolted everything up . The lower bolt had gone in beside the gasket so I thought it had gone through the hole and everything was fine. Anyway, I realigned the gasket, bolted everything back up, and then went for a ride. Quote
Crazy K Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 I just came in from cruisin' with the top down. Yes I did get it running right but I almost hate to admit what it was.As I was getting ready to take the plenum off to check for a vacuum leak, I started taking the TB off and noticed that the gasket had slipped down about 3/4" on one side when I bolted everything up . The lower bolt had gone in beside the gasket so I thought it had gone through the hole and everything was fine. Anyway, I realigned the gasket, bolted everything back up, and then went for a ride. PWNED!!!! glad it's back up! Quote
Clarke33 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Posted September 7, 2007 Thanks for all the help. Next up is to check to see why the right rear window won't operate. Quote
ManicMechanic Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 Everyone seems to have problems with the right rear window...I have never had a one on mine except the '92, if I don't hold the switch just right, it doesn't go back up but it does work. It's the master switch. Quote
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