theoneliln Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 so yesterday i replaced my water pump and i was quite hppy with the results,no more loud noise,and all together better sound,and my engine doesnt over heat! today i had plans to chill with my girlfriend.so when i got there we hung out or w/e blah blha. but when i went to leave my car decided to not turn over and im pretty pissed. so my question is this: would it just be easier for me to pull the motor and do it,and if i do that then im gunna replace all the gaskets and my distibuter seal(cant think of what exactly its called) but if not then someone plz send me a link with pics on how to do it without pulling the motor.. also i was wondering if anyone knew how much the sensor on my trnasmission would caost to replace? thanks for your time. TheOneLilN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 so yesterday i replaced my water pump and i was quite hppy with the results,no more loud noise,and all together better sound,and my engine doesnt over heat! today i had plans to chill with my girlfriend.so when i got there we hung out or w/e blah blha. but when i went to leave my car decided to not turn over and im pretty pissed. so my question is this: would it just be easier for me to pull the motor and do it,and if i do that then im gunna replace all the gaskets and my distibuter seal(cant think of what exactly its called) but if not then someone plz send me a link with pics on how to do it without pulling the motor.. also i was wondering if anyone knew how much the sensor on my trnasmission would caost to replace? thanks for your time. TheOneLilN :eek: :eek:It take a total of 15 minutes to replace the starter on a w body car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 :eek: :eek:It take a total of 15 minutes to replace the starter on a w body car I've heard that the LQ1 oil cooler line gets in the way. Of course, that makes about 20 more minutes. Opinions vary. I did a search and discovered people saying it was easy, and others saying it was hard to near impossible. I'd wager it matters what year you have. It's a couple of bolts at least, and see if it pops out with some twisting. It should be pretty straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern8tion9l Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 mine was a bastard to fish out from around everything under there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 My AC lines get in the way. It was pita. Such a big ass starter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Bring it down to crown point and i can do it for you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 i havent replaced my starter, but i reshimmed it right after i bought it. It's a pain cuz it's kinda hard to get to, but if you can be patient and take your time to do it right, shouldnt be too hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoneliln Posted June 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 well im gunna take a stab at it tommarow.. if i have andytrouble i'll let you guys know.. and thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockTherapy Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 get a 3X00 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 get a 3X00 one. oh, x10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yep, when you replace it, go with a newer 3400 starter. It's a bit smaller, making it just that much easier to put back in. Anyways, I would rate it a 2. I would say 1, just because it's a matter of like 2 bolts(plus the little plastic shield if your car has it), but you may have to deal with some oil cooler lines. The best way to get it out, if you have those lines in the way, is force it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 driving up on ramps would probably be a big help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 driving up on ramps would probably be a big help Yeah, I replaced mine with only jack stands and at night. Other than that it wasn't bad. I don't know how much room and LQ1 has, but for a 3.1 its much easier to get out if you take the oil filter off too. I went to the 3x00 starter as well. If your current starter is shimmed you may not need the shims with the 3x00 starter. Mine had two shims on it and then new 3x00 one did not need any shims. This was also confirmed from two or three other people I talked to that said the 3x00 started doesn't need any shims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I almost forgot about that... When i bought my first vert I had to change the starter to drive it home. had to deal with a impact tighten oil filter too, which would not come off for love or money. try removing the oil filter... and 3x00 starter FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yes. Newer style starter is a must. Sean and I removed the oil filter as well, but still had some coolant and a/c lines in the way. After the annoyance of removing the old one (at least on a TGP), I decided there's no way I'm replacing it with that same monstrosity. I went with a starter off an '03 3400 equipped Impala. MUCH smaller and lighter, and installing it was a HELL of a lot easier. We also didn't reuse the 2 shims (which were broken, anyway ), and it starts fine. The starter on the TSTE just went out, and I snagged an '01 Impala starter yesterday to replace it with (hopefully this weekend). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoneliln Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 well idk if thats the exact problem im hoping it is...but my uncle who owns a bodyshop and is ase certified in liek everything.. said that my motor might be locked up.. and if thats the case im just gunna save for a 3.8 supercharged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 l67 ftl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockTherapy Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 well idk if thats the exact problem im hoping it is...but my uncle who owns a bodyshop and is ase certified in liek everything.. said that my motor might be locked up.. and if thats the case im just gunna save for a 3.8 supercharged! dude, if john told you the motor is locked up, check it. take off the accessory belt, and try to spin the crank with a breaker bar. if it spins, well, you're not locked up, if it won't budge - then yeah, it's engine swap time. gimmie a call sometime, and we'll go over the car, probably monday night, because this weekend is booked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Im sorry but I am a little confuzzled here, where is the starter on the DOHC? Never had to deal with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Im sorry but I am a little confuzzled here, where is the starter on the DOHC? Never had to deal with one. Exactly the same place as the 2.8/3.1/3100/3400's. There is absolutely nothing special about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 to add to what timmy was saying, make sure you can spin it 180* +, because when i locked up my engine, i could turn it about 160*, and it would stop going either way, not quite able to spin all the way around. I wish I woulda had time to tear into it before my parents got rid of it (too bad i had to be back at school and they didnt want it sitting in the driveway by the house anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 so then why is he saying he has to rip out the motor.. my 3.1 didnt take me all that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 so then why is he saying he has to rip out the motor.. my 3.1 didnt take me all that long. Because he has no idea what he is doing. Changing an alternator is just as easy on a 3.1 as it is on a 3.4. Yours most likely didn't, as my 3100 didn't, but some of these cars have oil cooler lines that are in the way, making it a pain to change it out. It should only add another 5-10 minutes worth of extra time, but thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoneliln Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 took it to jdm automall collison (which my uncle owns) and while there it was looked at on there lunch break,they sat and thought for a minute what it could be... then my cousin gtipgary relized maybe it has something to do with the waterpump i just replaced 2 days ago,so he takes off my main drive belt and my car fired right up! wtf is taht im happy but im kinda pissed i took all of my stereo equipment out cause i thought it was gunna be there for a while.. but . what could it be? any ideas. and the water pump i put in it was a duralast with a lifetime warranty?just incase you wanna know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 so what was wrong with the water pump them? frozen from the beginning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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