PCGUY112887 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 OK I must have the WORSE luck ever. I am taking the stock cam out of my 3500, and there was a little piece of the orange rubber gasket that fell down on the cam. Well it was sitting there and I went in to grab it with needle nose pliers, and it FELL DOWN INTO THE HOLE where the oil goes down. From the GM book it looks like it fell straight onto the inside of the crank. NOW what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 unless you can see it (i.e. it landed on the crank somewhere) you'll have to drop the oil pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 *worst and yes, taht does suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 vacuum cleaner with tiny attachment (edge) shove a plastic tube into the vacuum attachment, then put it over the oil passage. There's a chance that would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 For some reason I highly doubt a vac will do it, I think it will just suck air through the other oil drain holes for the cam and never provide enough pressure to lift that gasket out. How much crap is in there with the crank? I mean... how easy is it for oil to flow around? I considered pouring a quart of oil into the hole, then pulling the drain plug and pray it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 that's the thing though. If you can get enough airflow to come thru the hole it fell into, if I'm thinking right (small piece of gasket) might come out. Use an electrolux, canister style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 it sounds like you're gonna have to drop the pan. It's either sitting on the crank somewhere or it already fell into the oil pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Still seems like I could maybe crank it a few times by hand, and add oil through that hole and it would end up in the bottom of the oil pan? If I can get it to the bottom of the oil pan, if I just drain the oil then it SHOULD come out. I am just worried about how hard it would be for the gasket to make it all the way to the bottom. I don't know if it could get really caught up somewhere or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 How big was the said piece of gasket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I would say about 1" long at the max, maybe half an inch wide at the max... probably smaller. I considered just leaving it and hoping the filter would grab it, but I was afraid it would get stuck somewhere and stop oil flow. Doubtful but... I dunno. I have an oil pressure guage to go on so I would see if something was wrong. The gasket is a little sliver off the gasket used on 3500 to seal the bottom of the LIM to the block, as opposed to RTV on the 3100/3400. When I pulled, the "top" part of the gasket ripped off and fell down where the cam was. When I removed the cam and went to get it out, it slipped down the hole very furthest to the crank pulley. I can't see it at all, and if I try to stick my finger down it I feel nothing (no crank there, anything). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I wouldn't leave it in there. Your really risking a lot doing so. Can you try turning the crank by and to possibly drop it into the pan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I will try, but how hard would it be for it to make it all the way down there? Like I said earlier I considered some oil to maybe help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Yeah, if it's stuck in the hole, pouring oil down that hole will probably force it out and down into the pan. However, there are a couple of baffles in the pan so the odds of it falling down to the drain hole are slim to none. Pulling the pan looks like the only way. I would at least try the vacuum thing Brian suggested....it's worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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