RareGMFan Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-96-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-Coilover-lowering-springs_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ107061QQihZ018QQitemZ280128033923QQrdZ1 Anyone familiar with this company? I'm not really looking for coilovers, but I know many others are big fans of them so I thought I'd post this. Quote
Q-Ball Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Hmmm, that pic is only for reference. Price isnt bad at all! Quote
Addicted To Boost Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 I saw them about a week ago....getting kinda curious.... Quote
Psych0matt Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 i emailed him with some questions. he's like an hour away, so i might check them out sometime Quote
Crazy K Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 never heard of them, and I used to live in Greenwood! 4 springs in a box? coilovers for the front and rear?????????? deleting the original springs? Quote
Psych0matt Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 never heard of them, and I used to live in Greenwood! 4 springs in a box? coilovers for the front and rear?????????? deleting the original springs? if you check his other auctions, it's the same picture for all of them. probably just the generic picture they use for ebay. I'd be interested in checking this out, though Quote
pwmin Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 what do they use for a mount? you can use the stockers on the rear, but no way on the front. it would have to come with some sort of fabbed mount. very suspicious. Quote
CSI_MuNkY Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 This is fishy to me... I'm doing the coil overs and I looked into building my own. You can barely buy 1 coil over spring for that price, let a lone 4 springs, mounts, retainers and sleeves. To build your own you are looking around $1300USD plus finding a way to get mounts made. The term "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. At that price there are probably no poly gaskets bushings or anything else to go between the spring and the hardware, this could mean BIG noise. I also have to agree with pwmin... there is no mounts pictured and for that I would be really hesitant. The fronts especailly, and I realize that the pic is a genaric pic, but wtf, why not better represent your products by taking actual pictures of the product to post? its not like you have to pay to host pictures or anything. I also find it odd that for a guy that sells coil overs for sooooo many cars, he bought several coil over kits for different cars from other auctions for $7 per kit. Are his just copies of other people products? Jamie Quote
Q-Ball Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 This is fishy to me... I'm doing the coil overs and I looked into building my own. You can barely buy 1 coil over spring for that price, let a lone 4 springs, mounts, retainers and sleeves. To build your own you are looking around $1300USD plus finding a way to get mounts made. The term "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. At that price there are probably no poly gaskets bushings or anything else to go between the spring and the hardware, this could mean BIG noise. I also have to agree with pwmin... there is no mounts pictured and for that I would be really hesitant. The fronts especailly, and I realize that the pic is a genaric pic, but wtf, why not better represent your products by taking actual pictures of the product to post? its not like you have to pay to host pictures or anything. I also find it odd that for a guy that sells coil overs for sooooo many cars, he bought several coil over kits for different cars from other auctions for $7 per kit. Are his just copies of other people products? Jamie Maybe you just got ripped off? Quote
Psych0matt Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 the place is not too far from me, so I want to maybe stop by and check those out sometime. Maybe later this week if Ken and I are both free we can go check them out and maybe take some pictures and measurements Quote
xtremerevolution Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 This is fishy to me... I'm doing the coil overs and I looked into building my own. You can barely buy 1 coil over spring for that price, let a lone 4 springs, mounts, retainers and sleeves. To build your own you are looking around $1300USD plus finding a way to get mounts made. The term "you get what you pay for" comes to mind. At that price there are probably no poly gaskets bushings or anything else to go between the spring and the hardware, this could mean BIG noise. I also have to agree with pwmin... there is no mounts pictured and for that I would be really hesitant. The fronts especailly, and I realize that the pic is a genaric pic, but wtf, why not better represent your products by taking actual pictures of the product to post? its not like you have to pay to host pictures or anything. I also find it odd that for a guy that sells coil overs for sooooo many cars, he bought several coil over kits for different cars from other auctions for $7 per kit. Are his just copies of other people products? Jamie There's still 3 days left to go on the auction, so I doubt it will stay at $90 for long. What do you guys think they'll sell for? Quote
pwmin Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 i wanna know how he thinks itll work on 90-96 but not 88 and 89 Quote
slick Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 He may not know the exact years that the suspension was the same. He probably assumes that the 88 and 89 are the RWD variants. Quote
pwmin Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 He may not know the exact years that the suspension was the same. He probably assumes that the 88 and 89 are the RWD variants. thats kinda my point...he doesnt know what years were the same, so how does he know they will actually work? Quote
CSI_MuNkY Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Maybe you just got ripped off? This coming from the guy that had to get all his work done more than once cause the first guy had NO clue what he was doing Seriously though, about the price, theres no reserve, so obviously he can let them go that low, so what if they are going to increase over the coming days. If he can let them go that low I'd really be interested in knowing his secret, because at that rate of going, you would have to mass produce sooo many kits to make any profit, and even then you would likely have to use crappy low grade materials. Psych0matt, if you could stop off and see them that would be awesome. Too late for me, but if its a real deal then it would be a steal for everyone else! Jamie Quote
CSI_MuNkY Posted June 30, 2007 Report Posted June 30, 2007 So was anyone able to look farther into this? Jamie Quote
pwmin Posted June 30, 2007 Report Posted June 30, 2007 So was anyone able to look farther into this? Jamie i just emailed them asking the spring rate, length of spring and spring rate, and what all is included. ill keep you updated on the response. there is a phone number to call, but its probably too late and i dont feel like it right now anyway. Quote
kuwaitliberation Posted June 30, 2007 Report Posted June 30, 2007 I started in with a barrage of questions. I started off easy, so here is the first Q & A: Q: I can't tell from the picture, but how does the raise/lower adjustment work? It is the sleeve and nut setup? A: We have 2 different spindles, one that you release the allen head screw, then rotate the spindle nut up and down then tighten back up. The other is 2 spindle nuts that lock together against each other. My next set of questions which I am waiting on a response for: Q: What is the spring rate on these? Does it come with the rear top mounting bracket? On the 88 - 96, it has a monoleaf spring that runs from one rear wheel to the other. When you put these on, you remove the entire monoleaf and go with coilovers. You have to put in a different top mount so the spring can be seated at the top. It also will need to be big enough to dampen the shock to help prevent metal fatigue. If you guarantee they will fit, that is the problem you are going to run into. Also, does it come with something to dampen the noise out? Quote
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