ismellrealbad Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Yup. ive finally finished it. the car is on the road, well it was was. After driving it around for 5 minutes i developed a horrble tap in the motor. i drove it right home after noticing and after listening its gotta be either a bearing or lifter. yeah so i think my motor is fucked now and probably all thanks to that fucking intense oil filter relocation plate. i had no choice but to start the motor and quickly turn it off about 4 times with no oil pressure to see if i could get that adapter to work. Im going to try some lucas today and if that doesnt work i will be offering it for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 The motor or the car for sale?! That sucks though! Im sorry to hear all that work and now another problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 i'd just trash the relocation setup, put a good filter on it and mabie some slick 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 no relocation=no trans. filter needs to be relocated to put a 5 speed in. I would like to sell the car as a whole, because i dont have the means to part it out really. ill know in a few days whats goin on and decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I'd keep the car, and swap in a new engine. You've put all this time and money into it, only to sell it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bake82 Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Seriously Rob..don't give up now...i mean hell you drove HOW LONG to pick up the 5 speed stuff! I would NOT give up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 it took me almost 2 months just to figure out how i would fabricate the oil filter relocation after, prolly 6 months altogether just to find parts, maybe 3 weeks total of actual work. i have squeezed evey bit of time and effort out of myself that i could, not to mention every penny. im pretty much broke now because of this car and i do not have time, means or money to go any further. it would kill me to lose this car i love it with a passion, but im just screwed right now im at the end of the line. if anyone has any interest in it i need money and if you do i will have to sell it. otherwise it will have to get parked for go knows how long maybe even a year until i can straighten myself out and have room for another project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I vote keep the car until you have some time/money to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 wait, save and fix. Hell. do an oil change and put in 10W50 and see what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Can of engine restore, see if it gets quiet? If it gets quiet and stays quiet change out for fresh oil and pray. Hold onto it, you will kick yourself later if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 i think its fucked, i put over a half bottle of lucas in and not a bit of change. any more opinions? im starting to think i may just have to keep it cuz i really dun wanna get rid of my baby...unless somoene paid me for it ill try to see if i can get a sound clip. i would like to know more specifically what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 do a full oil change. use cheap wally world stuff and see what happens. Change the FILTER Too! might be clogged with gunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuwaitliberation Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 i think its fucked, i put over a half bottle of lucas in and not a bit of change. any more opinions? im starting to think i may just have to keep it cuz i really dun wanna get rid of my baby...unless somoene paid me for it ill try to see if i can get a sound clip. i would like to know more specifically what it is. Sound clip would be helpful. It could be something not as bad as you might think. No need to toss the baby out with the bath water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 So, I don't think I get all of this... so, you swapped in a L67 with a 282, but the stock L67 oil filter won't fit with the 282 in there, so you made your own adapter to make the filter fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 good to hear the swap is done.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Regal Limited Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 ok, get a cardboard roll from a roll of paper towels and with the motor running, listen and put it up against the valve covers. Even better, get stethoscope of your doctor has a spare one, and use that. See if it's loudestr under the valve covers, and if not you're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i think its fucked, i put over a half bottle of lucas in and not a bit of change. any more opinions? im starting to think i may just have to keep it cuz i really dun wanna get rid of my baby...unless somoene paid me for it ill try to see if i can get a sound clip. i would like to know more specifically what it is. Sound clip would be helpful. It could be something not as bad as you might think. No need to toss the baby out with the bath water. Yeah, it might not be as bad as you tihnk. You don't wanna toss something that isn't necessarily broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I'm curious as to why the 282 needs the oil filter on the L67 to be moved. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just really don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 helpful? without even using a screwdriver it sounds like its coming from the bottom of the motor towards the center, and yes i know thats shitty just to go by ear. i wont be able to do a full oil change or get a sound clip till sat. however on a positive note i have now discoverd there is a will and a way. i started working at a new shop (ford dealer ) since chrysler has been dicking me over. they have no prob letting me pull the car in and pull the motor. esp since i was cocky about it n said i can prolly get the motor and trans out in about 2 hours. so if i become positive its something in the lower part of the engine i can remove it and even possibly leave it at work to tinker with if not maybe bring it home. god at least i have a WAY to fix the car now in worst case scenario ...and if i do end up rebuilding it i can guantee itll be built with at least 350hp at the crank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 the motor in my 91 was making a lot of noise like that and it just turned out to be some carbon or something. after it was delivered, i started it up and the noise was gone BG MOA seems to work pretty well for lifter noises. hope its not really in the bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 So I guess the whole worse case scenario theory here is that the relocation didn't work as planned, starving the engine for oil resulting in this horrible noise? What exactly happens when an engine is ran with no oil flow? I mean I can get a visual image, and I know it's very bad... but what actually could have happened to what part to make this noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hell_raiser Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 my 3100 sat for 3 mounths and rilly made bad sounds apon first start up and it did it for like 1 hour so i took it for a drive now its gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 So I guess the whole worse case scenario theory here is that the relocation didn't work as planned, starving the engine for oil resulting in this horrible noise? What exactly happens when an engine is ran with no oil flow? I mean I can get a visual image, and I know it's very bad... but what actually could have happened to what part to make this noise? that is correct! (chris farley voice in i forget what movie...) when you starve an engine for oil you are scraping metal on metal: bearings, lifters, pushrods, pistons & cylinder walls, , & everything in the valvetrain. im sure i left others out....yea its not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 did a full oil and filter change. noticed no particles in the drained oil. used a full bottle of lucas i nhe changed oil and let it idle up to temp and for another 15 mins, no noise. as soon as i put load on the motor the tapping starts and gets bad at 1,500 or above. once i pull it in it will continue to tap idling but not as bad as driving. i tried to get a sound clip with my phone but it was useless. i think what i might try to do is get a motor off ed morad and keep mine around to tinker with unless somoene wants it. thats my updates for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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