greencutlassdrvr Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 im thinking of keeping my cutlass after all.... the next thing i plan on doing after i come back from mexico is dropping a 282 getrag in place of the 4t60e... can somebody give me a parts list of everything i need? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 What year is your car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencutlassdrvr Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 What year is your car? 97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Plan on adding another $400 to your budget for HPTuners or PowrTuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Being that your car is a '97 and was never a possible option for a 5speed, its not going to just be a "bolt on." Your going to have to do some fabbing. Â I know 2 people? that have done the swap on 94+'s and I know it takes some modding. Â Look for soccrplyrgtp or something like that and Brian89gp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencutlassdrvr Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 in your guyses opinion, do you guys think it would be worth it even to try to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 in your guyses opinion, do you guys think it would be worth it even to try to do it? Â Depends. Â If I where to do it, I would do it with an engine swap, or something along those lines. Also remember once you mod your car this much driveability can suffer. Â You have to ask your self is it worth it? Do I have the patience, time, and the ability to have my car undriveable during the swap? Not to mention do you want to keep the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencutlassdrvr Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 in your guyses opinion, do you guys think it would be worth it even to try to do it? Â Depends. Â If I where to do it, I would do it with an engine swap, or something along those lines. Also remember once you mod your car this much driveability can suffer. Â You have to ask your self is it worth it? Do I have the patience, time, and the ability to have my car undriveable during the swap? Not to mention do you want to keep the car? well i do plan on keeping it, its my first car, had it for 3 years and nothing major(knock on wood) plus im always getting props for having a clean lookin car.... i do plan on swapin in an L67 in there... but im not sure if i should throw the 282 in there or just up grade the 4t65e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 mating an old manual to a new engine has proven to be very difficult. ecm issues. only a few have done it as far i as know. swapping in a whole L67/4t65e-hd unit would be much easier. Â but if you have the money, knowledge, skills, and patience for such a swap then i say go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 mating an old manual to a new engine has proven to be very difficult. ecm issues. only a few have done it as far i as know. Â It's a pretty common swap among the j and l body owners. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcutty Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 if you do an L67 swap, i hope you dont plan on keeping the 282. I really dont think it would go to well with the added power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 We'll see about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencutlassdrvr Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 iguess a 4t65e with a shift kit would do justice for a mildly modded L67 right? what do you guys think of the Thrasher 4t65e race transmission from 3800performance.com? is that strip only or could you throw that on a daily driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Probably too harsh for street applications, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencutlassdrvr Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 what about Lsds for the 4t65e? i havent really seen any  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 if you have any mechanical experience at all its really not that bad, just time consuming. it should be slightly easier with the 3100 seeing as there is no oil filter relocation issue (which has been holding me up for over a month now). parts are hard to come by also. best and easiest route is to find a parts car. only issue with the 3100 is i dont know what ur gunna do about the pcm...intense and zzp do L67 pcms so i didnt have a problem. if youd like i can give you an entire parts and requirements list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyd Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 if you do an L67 swap, i hope you dont plan on keeping the 282. I really dont think it would go to well with the added power.  I have a 430hp/430tq SBC V8 mated to a 282. It's holding up just fine. I wouldn't worry too much about that little L67 hurting it unless you're doing dragstrip launches.  http://www.zz430fiero.com  -D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBULS Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I have an idea.......... Â Do the 282 5 speed swap (with J or L body gears........NOT the W-Body ones which are too short on modded cars), then later on, swap in an LA1 (3400), and THEN turbo it...........a fair number of J and L Body guys are making good power with forced induction 3400's, and a 5 speed just works SO well with it. Â Hell, even a 3400/5 speed in NA form with a mod or two should be flirting with the 14's............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I have a 430hp/430tq SBC V8 mated to a 282. It's holding up just fine. I wouldn't worry too much about that little L67 hurting it unless you're doing dragstrip launches. Â that is very comforting to know. almost makes me have an ounce of hope my car will be reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 There is a big difference between a Fiero and a W-body though- weight. There's a reason why you see the fiero guys with SBC's behind 282's with no problems, yet you see w-bodys with 282's not holding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 If you can actually pull it off (if have enough knowledge), my hat's off to you sir. I'd love to throw a manual trans in my cutty, but I'm not mechanically inclined enough to be able to pull off the custom fabrications needed, or deal with the computer related issues/conversion (damn OBD1.5). Not to mention, I'd need a new dependable DD for my 350+ mile a week commute. Â IIRC, there are J bodies running 60*V6 3400 NA/turbo setups with either 282's or 284's that have been mentioned in similar topics. If you want to stay with a 60* engine (regardless of 3100/3400 etc.) go with a manual swap. You have OBDII, which should allow you to get more performance out of the setup, once you get everything working correctly. If you want to go with a 90* engine (L67 or a turbo'd L36), get the HD auto trans and a shift kit. Â The choice is yours to make, but if you decide to go either route, there are several people who have done it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSedan Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I have an idea.......... Â Do the 282 5 speed swap (with J or L body gears........NOT the W-Body ones which are too short on modded cars), then later on, swap in an LA1 (3400), and THEN turbo it...........a fair number of J and L Body guys are making good power with forced induction 3400's, and a 5 speed just works SO well with it. Â Hell, even a 3400/5 speed in NA form with a mod or two should be flirting with the 14's............ Â agreed. the W-body 282 gearing sucks. the main problem with the gearing is the very steep 1st and 2nd gear (3.77 and 2.19). i think the V6 J/L body 282 has 3.50 and 2.05 1st and 2nd. much better for a heavier W-body that makes alot of torque. fwiw my 282 is holding up fine to 337wtq but there is no traction in 1st and 2nd. i'm currently removing my Getrag to get resealed and am thinking about picking up a 282 from a V6 Beretta GT in the local salvage yard so i can have a hybrid built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1234 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 wtf? i thought you got rid of the cutlass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSedan Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 ha, i thought i did too. couldn't get money out of him so i took it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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