Trans needs replaced...UPDATE!!!JUNE 27!

[chadz34]

A while ago I had a few SES codes, remember my old post and saying one of the codes was a transmission slip? Well, about a week ago I had the fluid and filter changed and the look on the mechanics face told the story.....the magnet was LOADED with metal.....I am running on borrowed time as far as the trans holding on, it slips the odd time, and feels lazy...I got a quote for a rebuild cheapest is $1,700 and most is $2,700. At this point I have too much into the car to sell it....much like everyone on this board, so I will make the trans last until the end of summer....store it for the winter so I can save some change and get this tihng done....Now I can get my hands on a 92 Regal GS 3800 and it just had a new trans put on it....willthis trans work with my motor or is the year to year changes making this not able to happen? Thanks!

[Regal_GS_1989]

The regal has a 4T60, not a 4T60-E, so no, it wouldn't work with your car.

[Pontiac6KSTEAWD]

If the Regal is a 92, shouldnt it be a E model tranny? Which means it would work..

[Crazy K]

e or not..... it would also have to be the same gear ratio, which it will not be, hence you'd have issues anyhow.

[White93z34]

i think it might be time to part ways with that thing, i know you have dumped insane amounts of money into it just this past year, i'd sell it while it still rolls decent, and not look back.

[Pontiac6KSTEAWD]

I dunno about that. If it runs good, and he has it maintained well. I would probly find a tranny, or rebuild it. Its probly going to be cheaper than finding another car, getting it fixed to acceptable levels. Fix it man...

[kuwaitliberation]

I have rebuilt a trans before. Not the easiest thing in the world, but it can be done. Luckily it was on my toy, so I didn't care how long it took. Get a rebuild kit, the service manual and go to town. With you doing it yourself, I am sure you will have every thing completely cleaned out in there and looking brand new.

[GP1138]

i think it might be time to part ways with that thing, i know you have dumped insane amounts of money into it just this past year, i'd sell it while it still rolls decent, and not look back.

 

YOU'RE telling him to get rid of the car??? You, with the Z that's been to hell and back!

 

Wait... sounds like an evil scheme to me.

 

I have to agree though. Maybe put some Lucas through it, see if that does anything.. if there's tons of metal on the magnet, you're probably fucked anyway.

[J]

I have rebuilt a trans before. Not the easiest thing in the world, but it can be done. Luckily it was on my toy, so I didn't care how long it took. Get a rebuild kit, the service manual and go to town. With you doing it yourself, I am sure you will have every thing completely cleaned out in there and looking brand new.

although i agree, unless you have access to the specialty tools needed i'd say fuck it

[ns87]

Chad, I think you literally have the worst luck in the world of cars. Sorry to hear that dude. If you think the trans is the last thing needed to be replaced in the next 2 years (aka no timing belt, brakes, exhaust, etc) then I would rebuild your trans. If not, I would sell it while you still can.

 

although i agree, unless you have access to the specialty tools needed i'd say fuck it

 

Just for my own knowledge, how many specialty tools are needed? I've always wanted to rebuild a transmission.

[Crazy K]

start looking for a dohc transmission. I've theorized that a 3.1 car tranny may work, as the gear ratio is slightly different, but it may set off your trouble code. I shall attempt mating a 3.4 DOHC to a 3.1 tranny sometime for shits and giggles.

[Regal_GS_1989]

There should be no issues with running a 3.1 trans on a 3.4. Even if the final drive is different, what would that matter, your going to have both transmissions out of the cars at some point, you could always just swap the final drive parts.

[GOT2B GM]

I thought starting in 96, LQ1 cars got the 4T65E?

[kuntzie]

I thought starting in 96, LQ1 cars got the 4T65E?

 

^ agreed

[ismellrealbad]

improper ratio will also throw off your speedo i beleive

[Euro]

If the Regal is a 92, shouldnt it be a E model tranny? Which means it would work..

 

no I believe the 4T60E's started in 93.

[5speedz34]

I thought starting in 96, LQ1 cars got the 4T65E?

 

^ agreed

 

I thought 97?

[Crazy K]

There should be no issues with running a 3.1 trans on a 3.4. Even if the final drive is different, what would that matter, your going to have both transmissions out of the cars at some point, you could always just swap the final drive parts.

 

Yes, You would have to swap the differential carrier and ring gear? and the chain sprokets requiring deep entry into the trans.

 

improper ratio will also throw off your speedo i beleive

NO. ratio is independent of the VSS sensor location.

 

if a 3.4 car would work fine on a 3.1 trans, the VSS would still reflect proper speed, but you would lower the rpms by a small percentage.

3.43 (3.4) vs 3.33 (3.1) 3.33:3.43 = 1:1.03 a measly 3% difference.

[Brian P]

it's not as simple as changing the final drive/ differential. 3.4 DOHC tranny has different input/output sprockets which contribute. 3.4 DOHC tranny's have 33 teeth on the input and 37 teeth on the output, whereas 3.1 4T60e's have 35/35

[SigEpCutlass]

Chad how much mileage is on that lumina? I thought it had pretty low mileage? If the rest of the car is good & running well (now with all the money you've spent), I'd try to pick up a tranny out of a j/y or from ebay. Get it a "new" tranny, and then sell it or keep it.

[chadz34]

Chad how much mileage is on that lumina? I thought it had pretty low mileage? If the rest of the car is good & running well (now with all the money you've spent), I'd try to pick up a tranny out of a j/y or from ebay. Get it a "new" tranny, and then sell it or keep it.

My Lumina has only 113,000km......The guy at the tranny shop said that most 4T60-E's were shitty built, and he has upgraded parts with the rebuild he will do.....After sitting on it, I will never get the money back out of it. Before I put it away, it ran great with only one problem, still a fluctuating idle and stalling when placed in park.......sources say that is a leaky lower intake gasket WHICH is covered by my headgasket work, so I am getting it back out and taking it to be repaired for free. Good news is I almost have enough to fix the trans so the Lumina will see the road again...sometime soon. This car has had more lives than a fucking cat hahah

[slick]

Good idea. When he does the rebuild, have a shift kit installed as well. It will actually increase the life of the trans as well. They can be bought at most auto parts stores for about $100-$150.

[chadz34]

Good idea. When he does the rebuild, have a shift kit installed as well. It will actually increase the life of the trans as well. They can be bought at most auto parts stores for about $100-$150.

Well the sweet part is, he will stand behind his work as long as I own the car. Yeah, he tossed out the idea of a shift kit, I will put one in I tihnk, I mean if I'm doing something this big I mgiht as well do it right. He has done trannys for GTP's too. He claims there is a new kit for my transmission with much higher quality parts so this is an upgrade.

[slick]

Definately do the shift kit. The shifts will be much firmer instead of the sloppy stock shifts. Higher line pressure(always a good thing).

[chadz34]

Definately do the shift kit. The shifts will be much firmer instead of the sloppy stock shifts. Higher line pressure(always a good thing).

For the money, I will be doing the shift kit, it's fairly cheap. As you know, owning an LQ1 is quite frustrating. At least my year warranty isn't up on those intake gaskets. I tohught it was a vaccum leak and I spent major money replacing all the lines, when all the while it was the intake gaskets the dealer replaced. So now I gotta go get my car form storage and inconvienience the owner of the garage becuase of my dealers carelessness.