Addicted To Boost Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Alright- Kyle (Krenzy) was by my place today and we were driving our TGP's, and we pulled over- his car died, refused to start again (this happened at 10PM, it is now 2PM) still refuses to start. When you try to start it, it will crank and crank, but will not fire. You can't feel the engine fire. When you try to start it in the dark, the sparkplug wires LIGHT UP a bright white/blue! What could be going on here? We are at my house with NO ideas. All the fuses are good, the battery has been charged, and nothing seems to be contacting the sparkplug wires. Any ideas, comments, etc. are greatly appreciated!! Thanks!! Nick & Krenzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuwaitliberation Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Do you have fuel pressure? Not sure why the spark plug wires would glow the same color as a spark, but you said it's all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Not sure if its ALL of the wires lighting up, but you can see them light up from the coils, all the way up to where the wires go next to the power steering pump.... Not sure about the fuel pressure... When we crank it, you can smell raw fuel under the hood. Any ideas? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuwaitliberation Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Not sure if its ALL of the wires lighting up, but you can see them light up from the coils, all the way up to where the wires go next to the power steering pump.... Not sure about the fuel pressure... When we crank it, you can smell raw fuel under the hood. Any ideas? Thanks Wires lighting up means bad wires. The reason they glow is because they are arcing and sparking all the way down the wire. Probably a great show at night. Needless to say, they aren't supposed to do that. Smell of raw fuel is a good sign. Just don't light up Means you are getting go-go juice. My brain is turning (it hurts!). Coilpack - no. You are getting sparks. Are you getting sparks at the right time? Timing belt skip a tooth? From what I can remember, if the crank/cam position sensors are out of whack, it shouldn't even be able to turn over, or is that not the case on these (I am referring to Fords, here as I have worked on those forever). I have seen one Mercury that skipped two teeth on the OHC belt and we could still crank it. Luckily, we didn't destroy pistons or valves. Other than that, I need coffee and don't have all brain cells firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1kicker Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Sounds like bad wires to me too, but I've never heard of bad wires causing a no start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Dubya Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 yeah I'm betting since its starting at the coils your ICM is shorted out. Best bet is to replace it and take it over to an Advance Auto or Autozone, they can test them for you for free. If you smell gas you can count out the fuel pump (most likely), but its still a good idea to find out what its status is, just to rule things out. CS, ICM, or ECM are usually the culprit for a no start with fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krenzy Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Hey guys...I got home last night but first got online now. Here's a bit more info...Nick did a good write up. When we pulled it home, we immediately set to work debunking all the possibilities. As most know, everything has been replaced...COMPLETE tune up. Plugs, wires, coils, ICM, ECM, Fuel pump, injectors, CPS, all has been replaced. I understand they can die for no reason...but we tested the fuel first. At the fuel rail, there was fuel squirting out: so it has fuel pressure. We removed two plugs from a coil, and saw the arc...did this on each of the 3 coil packs and all worked. Removed a plug, plugged it to the wire, grounded it to see the spark, and it did spark and fuel squirted out of the plug hole, so both the plugs and injectors work. So, fuel and spark are there...now what? To me, I've heard this same sounds when the car's out of gas, but I had put only 22 miles on that FULL tank of gas when it died. It cranks and cranks but does not turn over, or even sputter! I did use a gas that I hadn't used before, however Nick has been using it in his cars. Is it possible I got some bad gas? I'm trying to CSI all aspects of this, but I keep drawing a blank. I appreciate all the input, and hope we can nail this. Thanks! Krenzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 To Kyle and everyone here- I just talked to my neighbor, who is a mechanic at a local dealer, and he said the wires "lighting up" is a result of your wires gone bad, regardless of age. If the wires are bad, it may get spark to the engine, but probably not enough for the engine to run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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