synistershadows Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 alright well i have been reading though this site about this topic and well i have the tach cluster in my 92 Cutlass right now and i picked up a UB3 Digital cluster outa a 90 cautlass and from what i read im gona have to re-wire the adapter does anyone have the pinouts for this conversion i know w-body has a scematic but its for a base DIGITAL cluster to the UB3 I need the one for the TACH cluster to UB3! Can Anyone Help me here? Quote
rockfangd Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 pm stockgp and he should have them. I have them but i do not know exactly where they are at the moment. I did that with my 94 cutty last year. I went from the needle gauge to the UB3. Quote
Supreme Cutlass Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 http://www.w-body.com/index2.html click on upgrades (on the left) then instrument cluster upgrade that will show you how to re-pin the connector. Use a manual because some of the wires were wrong on the writeup when I did mine. Quote
Q-Ball Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 http://www.w-body.com/upgrades/88-91cutlass-cluster/index.html Quote
synistershadows Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Posted May 4, 2007 thanx guys and i already knew about that instument cluster page but thats for the base digital dash to the UB3 cluster is not the same as the needle tach Quote
Q-Ball Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 But it has the pinouts, that all what you should need really. Quote
rockfangd Posted May 5, 2007 Report Posted May 5, 2007 x2. Buy the adapter from stockGP thats what i did and it made the job 90% easier Like i said i went from the base needle cluster to the UB3 too and everything works fine Quote
synistershadows Posted May 7, 2007 Author Report Posted May 7, 2007 alright guys well i got it in but my tach doesnt work everything else seems to work fine but when i was repinning it i noticed when i was done i had 2 wires on both ends of the adapters i got that wernt used (i went to a junk yard and pulled a UB3 plug and just matched the wires but on my original pulg i have a light green and black wire and a darker kinda dirt brown wire while on my UB3 plug i have an orange wire and a light blue wire does anyone know where these 2 wires are supposed to go ??? (remember i had the guage with tach cluster originally) any help would be appretiated Quote
ns87 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 The tach wire goes to the orange wire by the code reader port. I dont remember its technical name.....its where you'd get error codes below the dash near your knees i know w-body has a scematic but its for a base DIGITAL cluster to the UB3 I need the one for the TACH cluster to UB3! Oh and just so you know, your style gauges (needle) and the base digital have the exact same wiring except the tach. I upgraded to your style gauges from base digital good luck! Quote
joey b Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 I believe the light blue is the English/Metric switch for the DIS. And you need to run a wire from the ALDL diagnostic port up to the dash. Quote
rockfangd Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 wait what is the same as the ub3. Mine had to be completely repinned. i went from the standard cluster to ub3 ad i was told none are the same Quote
ns87 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 The instructions for base digital to UB3 apply for his needle style to UB3. Needle style same wiring as base digital. sorry I wasn't clear Quote
rockfangd Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 oh k i was like whAT i went through all of that work for nothing Quote
synistershadows Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Posted May 8, 2007 I believe the light blue is the English/Metric switch for the DIS. And you need to run a wire from the ALDL diagnostic port up to the dash. ok well my english/metric switch works just fine???? im just wondering wht the 2 wires on both ends conect up to ?? cuz remember i got the UB3 plug from a car from the junk yard and just matched up the wires and i have 2 left from each plug 2 on the original and 2 on the UB3 plug?? Quote
Supreme Cutlass Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 also whats the ALDL?????? assembly line data link; where you get engine codes from Quote
synistershadows Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Posted May 8, 2007 also whats the ALDL?????? assembly line data link; where you get engine codes from thanx !! Also does anyone KNOW where to find the senders?? Quote
Supreme Cutlass Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Autozone, for both senders. I thought you had gauges though? Quote
rockfangd Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 just a question. When i did the swap in my 94 cutty i had to change the oil sender but the coolant sender i did not. It seems to work fine like it always has? just curious if i was supposed to change it. there is a considerable difference in the oil sender and the dummy oil sensor. I got mine out of a 95 pontiac GA 3100 v6,. It has to be the cluster with the oil gauge to have the real sender though Quote
Supreme Cutlass Posted May 9, 2007 Report Posted May 9, 2007 just a question. When i did the swap in my 94 cutty i had to change the oil sender but the coolant sender i did not. It seems to work fine like it always has? just curious if i was supposed to change it. there is a considerable difference in the oil sender and the dummy oil sensor. I got mine out of a 95 pontiac GA 3100 v6,. It has to be the cluster with the oil gauge to have the real sender though It's actually a switch, not a sender. It triggers the dummy light at one certain pressure instead of sending data to run a gauge. If it's short and stubby, it's a switch, if it's longer ( about 4 inches) it's a sender. I've heard that after '92-'93 they put in a switch that only gave out three readings for the gauge. Quote
synistershadows Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Posted May 9, 2007 Autozone, for both senders. I thought you had gauges though? I did have the analog guages before but i now have the digital UB3 in and i honestly dont know if the 2 are working or not ???? and does anyone have an idea of what thoes 4 wires that i had remaing are for and could one of my older ones ( the green white or the dirt brown) already run down to my ALDL since i had the guages with the tach in before?? Quote
synistershadows Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Posted May 15, 2007 ok well i still have to get my Tach on the UB3 working i know that you have to wire it up to that plug where you get the codes from the ALDL thing anyways does anyone know where i could get the proper wire and if so which kind of wire should i use and how to wire it into that plug?? Quote
Supreme Cutlass Posted May 16, 2007 Report Posted May 16, 2007 ok well i still have to get my Tach on the UB3 working i know that you have to wire it up to that plug where you get the codes from the ALDL thing anyways does anyone know where i could get the proper wire and if so which kind of wire should i use and how to wire it into that plug?? you don't have to wire it into the plug, nor do you have to use certain wire, just splice it properly. In fact, I believe I was in such a hurry that I used home stereo speaker wire still works perfectly. Quote
joey b Posted May 16, 2007 Report Posted May 16, 2007 ok well i still have to get my Tach on the UB3 working i know that you have to wire it up to that plug where you get the codes from the ALDL thing anyways does anyone know where i could get the proper wire and if so which kind of wire should i use and how to wire it into that plug?? Use a metal coathanger if you want. (not really, but it *would* work) Quote
synistershadows Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Posted May 16, 2007 ok well even if i do splice it in should there be any particilar wire i should splice it to or does it not matter really? Quote
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