parking brake on rear caliper upgrade

[luminal67]

I have searched and didn't come up with anything I wanted.

 

I read somewhere that someone has found a way to be able to use the 94+ parking brake on a pre-94 w-body. Can anyone, or the one who did it, be able to tell me how exactly they did it and if they have pics.

 

My rears need new pads, and I figured now would be a good time to upgrade, but I still want everything to be functional.

 

Thanks.

[Q-Ball]

here is a post I did http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php/topic,54375.0.html

 

Seems like tpsgarage is gone? fuck.

[GutlessSupreme]

here is a post I did http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php/topic,54375.0.html

 

Seems like tpsgarage is gone? fuck.

 

tpsgarage is now hosted by kenny on his site. I forget the link, at the moment, but it's posted on tgpforums.com

[ns87]

You need the parking brake equalizer and 94+ rear brake cables. You need to chizzle or sawzall that equalizer off and have it rewelded on. Jay was nice enough to take it off the donor car for me....From there I'm 99% sure you can piece it together to work.

[Q-Ball]

we need links and pics!

[pwmin]

yea, im going to do the newer parking brake and everything so i'd like some more info too dont have the money right now though.

[ns87]

we need links and pics!

 

Sorry I don't have either

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

We did it on my dad's '90 Q4 CS and all we did was buy 1994 parking brake cables for both sides, ziptied them up, and it works perfectly.

 

chances are you'll have to take the cut-off tool to your aux spring mounts though

[kuntzie]

im in the pricess of going to a 94 or whatever+ emergency brake complete setup (including pedal) as well the rear " upgrade"... mainly just for the larger calipers to use with even bigger brakes

[luminal67]

We did it on my dad's '90 Q4 CS and all we did was buy 1994 parking brake cables for both sides, ziptied them up, and it works perfectly.

 

So all you did was buy the cables from the equalizer back? And where/what/why did you have to use zip ties?

 

I will be going to the local Pull-A-Part this saturday and I will look at some 94+ cars and compare. I will try for pics.

 

BTW- before I go, so I don't buy something else I can't sell. Is there anything anyone wants me to look for that is small enough to ship?

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

yeah, we bought the cables, calipers, and rotors. The 94+ cables route differently than the '90 Cables...this is easy to see when you've worked on both cars. You pretty much use the zip ties anywhere where the cables are behind the mounts for the lateral links to hold them in place. I didn't do the zip-tying, but my dad may have actually just tied them onto the sway bar in a spot or two. Its pretty straight forward...as long as they aren't gonna rub on something that moves and they aren't gonna get pulled a lot, you'll be fine. I don't think my dad put a return spring on it yet so the cable hangs lower than i like but whatever, it works great. We're still using the 1990 pedal and also the front cable. (the car is a 5-speed so the push to release pedal would be kind of a bitch)

[GutlessSupreme]

(the car is a 5-speed so the push to release pedal would be kind of a bitch)

 

why do you say that? I was thinking about swapping in the newer pedal when I did my swap...

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

I don't know about you, but when i park on a hill i usually start the car with the e-brake on (clutch in), then i get ready to back up/go forward i don't have to try to modulate 3 pedals, i just release the stock pedal with the handle and start popping the clutch at the same time.

 

I don't know about you, but I just think the push to release PKB pedals are grab-ass anyway...I'm not a huge fan of pump to set, but it works. My colorado has the ideal setup if you have to have a pedal...fully locked in 1 push and a release handle.

[GutlessSupreme]

I don't know about you, but when i park on a hill i usually start the car with the e-brake on (clutch in), then i get ready to back up/go forward i don't have to try to modulate 3 pedals, i just release the stock pedal with the handle and start popping the clutch at the same time.

 

I hadn't thought about it that way. I guess my question would be why not just put your foot on the brake pedal and release the parking brake? I haven't had too much manual experience yet so I don't know all the ins and outs and what's a pain, etc.

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

well, you can do that, but when you're on a large grade or nosed up against something, these cars roll away real fast so you have to be right on top of the clutch and gas, especially in a quad 4 car (more than 95% of my w-body 5-speed experience)

 

The other thing is, if you loose the vaccum in the booster (by hitting the brakes more than once), there's a pretty good chance the car will start to roll with your foot on the brake because of the pressure it takes.

 

Its personal preference, that's all. My dad wanted to maintain the OEM one for the reasons above AND the fact that it was already in the car. If you had a super torquey engine like my Colorado it wouldn't matter as much, but the Quad4 likes to stall, especially in reverse.

 

You don't HAVE to change it, that's my biggest point.

[Crazy K]

I would stick with the stock pedal myself. I have all the parts but have never completed the PKB cable. but i have done the rear brake swap on all but the 92.

[intern8tion9l]

i have the rear brakes and newer pedal, so i'm going to get all the 94+ cables and give it a go. i hate that pump to set crap, i've found it so unreliable