FordBoy Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 try to check fuses couold be that simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Ok, I got no spark. I tried 2 of the plugs. The right side and middle one on the front of the engine. I did smell gas on the plugs. Any idea's now? I'm really thinking something happened when they did the auto starter now. Hmm, there is a line that the installer would tap into from the coil packs....I'm not sure but I'd ask Chris (slick) on here about it...it's a tach signal, I'm not sure if it would have anything to do with the coilpacks not functioning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 try to check fuses couold be that simple Yeah they look fine. I called the place that did my auto start and they said that its possible that something might be messed up. But they doubt. Told me to take it to my mechanic and have them look at it. If they find anything wrong with the auto start causing the problem, guess who gets the bill! So after that I got it towed to my mechanic. They will call me sometime tomorrow letting me know. So hopefully all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 make sure you have fuel, pull off the small cap that looks like a valve stem on the fuel rail (i forget what side its on on a 3.1) get a small screwdriver and press the core in the middle of it, gas should shoot straight up, thats generally a good sign of fuel pressure. now since you say you are not getting any spark, it is generally one of 2 things, ICM or CPS. when you crank the car does the tach move? if it does move i'd say it is the ICM if it does not it is the CPS. now remember that is NOT a 100% sure way of pinpointing the problem, but it can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 make sure you have fuel, pull off the small cap that looks like a valve stem on the fuel rail (i forget what side its on on a 3.1) get a small screwdriver and press the core in the middle of it, gas should shoot straight up, thats generally a good sign of fuel pressure. now since you say you are not getting any spark, it is generally one of 2 things, ICM or CPS. when you crank the car does the tach move? if it does move i'd say it is the ICM if it does not it is the CPS. now remember that is NOT a 100% sure way of pinpointing the problem, but it can help. Yeah my tach moves. Thanks for all your help guys. My mechanic will let me know whats wrong in the morning. I've done all I can do with it. I just dont have all these feul pressure gauges and stuff. So time to let the pro's do it. I'll let you guys know what the problem was as soon as I get it back. Thanks again everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2bass Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I work installing remote starts and i can say that unless whoever did the job royally screwed it up it should not stop the car from starting altogether. Unless the starter wire or one of the ignition wires on the car was cut the car should still start. At work we get plenty of cars coming back with problems, thats just how it goes with remote starters. But since ive worked there we have never had a car that wouldnt start at all due to the remote starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBoy Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Best of luck! x2 good luck hopefully its something that they did so that you dont get the bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Ok, it was something behind my coil packs. It just fried appearently. We checked for any splicing wiring, but they dont know how they installed the autostart so cant say anything. We just got a used one put in with a 90 day warrenty on it. Atleast the cars running again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBoy Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 good to see it working again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Ok, it was something behind my coil packs. It just fried appearently. We checked for any splicing wiring, but they dont know how they installed the autostart so cant say anything. We just got a used one put in with a 90 day warrenty on it. Atleast the cars running again! Remote starts are usually tied in under the dash. The only thing heading to the engine bay for your remote start should be a tach line, which could be gotten at the coil packs. But... it's generally such low current that it shouldn't damage anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 For future referrence Q-Ball, when checking for spark, I usually pull off a spark plug wire off of the spark plug, have someone crank it and I usually get a small screwdriver and put it in the wire, then I listen for a clicking and look for a blueish/whitish spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBoy Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 its easier to put a plug into it then that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 its easier to put a plug into it then that lol yeah but I hate taking spark plugs out unless I have too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBoy Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 its easier to put a plug into it then that lol yeah but I hate taking spark plugs out unless I have too in a case lik this you have to the screw driver idea is dangerous depending on the screw driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yeah, it sounds much easier that way. But I did find out there wasnt any spark. Even by taking out the 2. I just happy the car can turn on again. Even though I got the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 its easier to put a plug into it then that lol yeah but I hate taking spark plugs out unless I have too in a case lik this you have to the screw driver idea is dangerous depending on the screw driver yes well my screwdrivers never give me a problem, i do have rubber handles on most of them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJansen658 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 You act like you don't like getting shocked by a coil... I can't count the number of times I've gotten shocked, recoiled in pain, and slammed my knuckles into something on the recoil. One time I got shocked, recoiled and smashed a knuckle, then whacked my head on the hood. Everyone seemed to find it amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89GP_SE Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 You act like you don't like getting shocked by a coil... I can't count the number of times I've gotten shocked, recoiled in pain, and slammed my knuckles into something on the recoil. One time I got shocked, recoiled and smashed a knuckle, then whacked my head on the hood. Everyone seemed to find it amusing LOL even i find that amusing and i wasnt even there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Back a few years ago my buddies and I were trying to get this pos lawn mower engine to start, well, because we had nothing better to do. So, we told our one geek friend (no mechanical knowledge) that it would start faster if he held his hand on the end of the spark plug. So he did, and gave the recoil string a pull like I've never pulled before lol...never seen my friend jump like that before lol!, and this was just a lawn mower coil lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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