97loudcut Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Chris and I need to know how to install the Autometer Air Fuel Ratio gauge in my car. Who here has done it and what does it require? Also, I have the Trans Temp gauge and I just want to clarify that this is how you install it. should be pretty easy to wire up...for the gauge itself, you have 3 wires...1 for Ground, 1 for Keyed Power, 1 goes to the sending unit...the sending unit screws into your transmission...there should be a hole in your trans somewhere with a plug in it...you unscrew the plug and put the sending unit in its place...the light bulb is pretty much self explanatory...1 is ground, the other is the power from your interior light wire on your light switch...that way it dims with the rest of the lights... Finally, the Volt gauge. Chris is going to tap it into an accessory line, sounds like the easiest way to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I've never looked into adding guage's, so I never knew where to tap what into what. The volt guage will be simple. Terry, which plug on the trans do you mean? Like, a general location or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuntzie Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 run a wire from the o2 sensor wire on your car.... easy as pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 run a wire from the o2 sensor wire on your car.... easy as pie Thats what I was figuring, but I wanted to be sure on that. Thats easy as hell. Matt, you wouldn't happen to know if you have a heated O2 sensor or not, do you? Or were these cars even optioned with a heated O2 sensor? If they were, which wire is the appropriate one for this application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 pretty sure no first gens have heated O2s stock, so he shouldn't have to worry about that. not really sure why you're installing an a/f gauge.. but in anycase, you're supposed to run the ground straight to the battery for best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 pretty sure no first gens have heated O2s stock, so he shouldn't have to worry about that. not really sure why you're installing an a/f gauge.. but in anycase, you're supposed to run the ground straight to the battery for best results. I'm just installing whatever guage's he bought. IMO, I only would have bought a trans temp and a voltage guage. Note taken on the ground. I might try to find the battery to block ground and tap it into that one, so I don't have random wire's running to the battery. Looks tacky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 A/F Tap into the O2. All 94's+ have heated O2's, you simply can't run OBD2 without one. Trans I know my buddy removed a bolt or something from the top of his 97 GP to get the tranny temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 A/F Tap into the O2. All 94's+ have heated O2's, you simply can't run OBD2 without one. Trans I know my buddy removed a bolt or something from the top of his 97 GP to get the tranny temp. Alright, so which wire do I tap into for the reading then. Aren't like two of them ground, 1 power, and 1 for information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 A/F Tap into the O2. All 94's+ have heated O2's, you simply can't run OBD2 without one. Trans I know my buddy removed a bolt or something from the top of his 97 GP to get the tranny temp. Alright, so which wire do I tap into for the reading then. Aren't like two of them ground, 1 power, and 1 for information? Umm hang on. http://www.grandprix.net/upgrades/transtempgauge.html <-----Trans http://www.fastgp.com/<-----Might help for o2 not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 This is alot of help, thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 A/F Tap into the O2. All 94's+ have heated O2's, you simply can't run OBD2 without one. Trans I know my buddy removed a bolt or something from the top of his 97 GP to get the tranny temp. Alright, so which wire do I tap into for the reading then. Aren't like two of them ground, 1 power, and 1 for information? Umm hang on. http://www.grandprix.net/upgrades/transtempgauge.html <-----Trans http://www.fastgp.com/<-----Might help for o2 not sure. Those should work. IIRC, when I added a heated O2 onto the Z34, the purple was the signal wire. As for the trans temp, assuming the 4t60 and the 4t65 have the same plug at the top of the trans, that should be pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Those should work. IIRC, when I added a heated O2 onto the Z34, the purple was the signal wire. yea, purple sound be signal. two blacks are the grounds obviously, then whatever other color (white?) would be the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I've never looked into adding guage's, so I never knew where to tap what into what. The volt guage will be simple. Terry, which plug on the trans do you mean? Like, a general location or something. not sure about that on the 4T60E...but, here's where i got the info about how to install it: http://www.oqcgp.com/upgrades/gauges_1/lotek.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 As for the trans temp, assuming the 4t60 and the 4t65 have the same plug at the top of the trans, that should be pretty cool. The 4T60-E's do have the pressure port/plug in the same spot. The 60-E has a different style transaxle bracket than the 65-E..so the plug is located just underneath the bracket from what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1234 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 i wouldn't cut the o2 wire though. strip it off in one spot and then solder in the wire for the gauge. this way you don't break the signal for the o2 sensor. that is my recomendation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 i wouldn't cut the o2 wire though. strip it off in one spot and then solder in the wire for the gauge. this way you don't break the signal for the o2 sensor. that is my recomendation Didn't plan on cutting anything. I'll strip it back just the way I do it when I do alarms/remote starts/keyless entry's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Personally for mine on the TSTE, I was planning on cutting the connectors off a junk sensor/harness and making a small "splitter cable," if you get me. it would plug in between the stock sensor and harness and have the wire for the a/f gauge split off of that, so that I wouldn't have to cut any of the stock wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1234 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 i wouldn't cut the o2 wire though. strip it off in one spot and then solder in the wire for the gauge. this way you don't break the signal for the o2 sensor. that is my recomendation Didn't plan on cutting anything. I'll strip it back just the way I do it when I do alarms/remote starts/keyless entry's. i figured you would have enough knowledge to do so. you know what your doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Personally for mine on the TSTE, I was planning on cutting the connectors off a junk sensor/harness and making a small "splitter cable," if you get me. it would plug in between the stock sensor and harness and have the wire for the a/f gauge split off of that, so that I wouldn't have to cut any of the stock wiring. I've always wanted to do something like that for my engine bay, that way I could tuck away almost all of the wiring harness's. Alas, takes a lot of time, and money I could put to better use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Personally for mine on the TSTE, I was planning on cutting the connectors off a junk sensor/harness and making a small "splitter cable," if you get me. it would plug in between the stock sensor and harness and have the wire for the a/f gauge split off of that, so that I wouldn't have to cut any of the stock wiring. I've always wanted to do something like that for my engine bay, that way I could tuck away almost all of the wiring harness's. Alas, takes a lot of time, and money I could put to better use. That's the way my buddy installed his AF gauge. I think he bought the connector's online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted December 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I'm still awaiting my AF gauge to come in the mail, and then I am making a trip down to Toledo to have Chris help me with it among other things. Matt <3's Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Wait, so you are coming down tomorrow?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 So why are you installing an A/F gauge again? That thing is just going to sweep back and forth all the time and be annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 So why are you installing an A/F gauge again? That thing is just going to sweep back and forth all the time and be annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 i like the air fuel gauge and for some reason, some girls are infatuated with them. the 60 has the same plug as the 65. thats where i tapped my sensor in. since i wast worried about the gauge being accurate, i used the secondary 02 sensor. i got the proper pac connector and wired in the stock wire and the signal wire to run to the a/f meter. i might redo it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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