GrandPrix34 Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 I emailed the guy and let them know about our W-Body application and here's the email he sent me.... "Thanks for getting in touch.Yes,we can make a spring for you.We have the die for the spring complete and about a week from completeing die for rubber parts.Our normal price will be $349.00 plus shipping and handleing,but to get it out in the market,will be selling for $299.00 plus shipping and handleing.Hope to hear back soon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reapper Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 More details please. Like performance value and the such. Sorry if I seem stupid about this. Just don't know what for sure your talking about. I do know your talking about the springs just want to know what makes them special. Laterz, William Grimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 More details please. Like performance value and the such. Sorry if I seem stupid about this. Just don't know what for sure your talking about. I do know your talking about the springs just want to know what makes them special. It's for the transverse mono-leaf spring across the rear axle of your car. Agreed, need more details: different ride height? Spring rate? Etc... - RedFox340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Do they lower the car at all? I agree we need more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 if it lowers the car enough i'll definately be swapping out my TDC coilovers for a flex-a-form spring! joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 What's wrong with your TDC coilovers? What shocks do they use? I might be interested in purchasing them from you! if it lowers the car enough i'll definately be swapping out my TDC coilovers for a flex-a-form spring!joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 the problem with the coilovers in general is they put the whole weight of the rear of the car on what, 14-16ga sheetmetal that wasnt meant for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 isn't that why they sell better struts? o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 isn't that why they sell better struts? o.o No, that isn't the case since the coil-over and struts (for the mono-leaf) bolt into the same location. The struts just stablize from you bouncing up-and-down after a bump or pot-hole... coil-overs are a combo of the strut with the spring wraped around it like you would find on your front McPerson struts. Same design. the problem with the coilovers in general is they put the whole weight of the rear of the car on what, 14-16ga sheetmetal that wasnt meant for it? And the claim of the coil-overs wrecking the towers is a myth. Then can be damage if and only if there's severe rust of the shock towers. The co-owner (?) of FFP has his running for about 1.5 years and there's been no negative complications of his coil-overs. Yes there's greater weight distrubution, but I've never seen or heard of a strut / coil-over shoot thru a shock tower. Only myths and exaggerated claims... nothing more. - RedFox340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heza Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 last time i wrote to the company, they said it would lower the rear of the car 2" while making handling better. the only thing i can think of being a problem...is...the front on w-bodies usually runs higher than the rear and only drop 1.5" with the ST coils. if 2" gets knocked off the back, then there will be that unsightly misbalance...but if it's not 2" but 1.5"...i'll order a leaf when i get home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 And the claim of the coil-overs wrecking the towers is a myth. Then can be damage if and only if there's severe rust of the shock towers. The co-owner (?) of FFP has his running for about 1.5 years and there's been no negative complications of his coil-overs. Yes there's greater weight distrubution, but I've never seen or heard of a strut / coil-over shoot thru a shock tower. Only myths and exaggerated claims... nothing more. I wouldn't say it's a myth. Just because he's ran his coilovers for 1.5 years doesn't mean his strut towers haven't warped a couple millimeters. It also doesn't mean that 5-years from now that metal fatigue won't tear the strut tower either. Has he been closely monitoring alignment to make sure his camber isn't changing due to the strut towers warping? I doubt it! I'm not too concerned about the strut/coilover shooting through the shock tower, I doubt that would ever happen. It's deformation of the strut tower that I'm concerned about, and the possibility of long-term metal fatigue down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 If you want to see something shoot through the shock tower get an Escort. I can't count how many of those I've seen growing up. My uncle was head mechanic for the ford dealer in town and that's all he ever talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismellrealbad Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 them and tempos are all rolling piles of crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 :withstupid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPrix34 Posted May 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 OK PEEPS, MORE INFO! "Thanks for getting back in touch.Spring rate will depend on what type of performance you want out of your car.Typical rate will be around 360,but if you want to race your car,we would give you a higher rate.So really,it will depend on what you do with your car.Spring will lower car about 2".A few others things about spring.Steel spring will weight about 45-50 pounds,where our spring will weight 8-10 pounds.With our spring,your car will ride smoother and handle better than with steel spring.Our spring will not sag over time,and spring will allow you to have higher rate spring on car than with steel spring.If any other questions,ask." again, if you guys want anymore question, let me know and ill get back 2 you guys on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 I think this guy is nutty. Why is he even talking about a steel spring? W-bodies never came with a steel spring. Anyone brave enough to drop $300 to see if it REALLY lowers the rear 2"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Sounds almost like he's talking about older leaf springs. Like the type you'd find on the rear of a truck or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabz Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Sorry, but i have been following this thread and thinking it all along, so i have to pull out the flag on this one, $300 US dollars to lower the rear by 2" , and the guy who is selling them is just referering to there performance over steel springs. If someone wants to spend that much go ahead but i ain't, there are cheaper, better ways to lower the rear. Since the fiberglass spring made for our cars, seem to be one of a kind, i think their structural stability and durability will be hard to match. What if they snap in a few years or just start breaking apart. So my verdict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18incholdz Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 so this lowers the rear of our car without the addition of coilovers? It just replaces the stock monoleaf right? I dont want to be the first one to try it, but if anyone puts this on their car let me know how it works out....It seems rather interesting and a lot cheaper than buying the coilovers for the back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPrix34 Posted May 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 ..... wats the sn of the guy who is turboing his GTP, he's the same one wit the 4T60E Shift selector he is owrking on which also you to shift and stay in that gear? He has a very good write up on why there is little to no aftermarket for any of our w-bodies... im still contacting and talking to this guy and asking him all kinds of questions i can think of. Aside of that, im talking to one of my dad's friends who works wit wheels, shocks, brakes, etc. *specialized mechanic* to see wat he feels on the subject. My plan is to purchase the ST Lowering springs first, then put the leaf in the back. Everything happens for a reason so if the spring was to break, crack, turn to flesh eating aliens, etc. so be it. I agree the info is still shady but rather than stay on the island and wonder wat it would be like to leave it, im heading to sea.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Um, this is a stupid question, but were all transverse mono-leafsprings made out of fibreglass? Why did he mention steel? I've never heard of a steel mono-leafspring on a W-Body! OK PEEPS, MORE INFO! "Thanks for getting back in touch.Spring rate will depend on what type of performance you want out of your car.Typical rate will be around 360,but if you want to race your car,we would give you a higher rate.So really,it will depend on what you do with your car.Spring will lower car about 2".A few others things about spring.Steel spring will weight about 45-50 pounds,where our spring will weight 8-10 pounds.With our spring,your car will ride smoother and handle better than with steel spring.Our spring will not sag over time,and spring will allow you to have higher rate spring on car than with steel spring.If any other questions,ask." again, if you guys want anymore question, let me know and ill get back 2 you guys on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 .....turn to flesh eating aliens That's fucking hilarious man! Ha ha ha! Damn brother! I nearly spit out my Sprite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 All the W-bodies had fiberglass monoleafs Robby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 ..... im still contacting and talking to this guy and asking him all kinds of questions i can think of. maybe you could point this guy to this forum and he can sort things out for us?? joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twalt13 Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 When are they going to be available? anyone (like the factory) have pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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