Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 two things. first: I want to adjust my suspension.... I want to be able to life the car higher for ground clearance... for maybe 8 to 10 inches..... and lower it back to stock height.... or close to it. Possible? second: my diagnostic shows that I'm getting a MEM-CAL error, the book says it's MEM-CAL (knock sensor) what's up with that? o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 don't know about the Mem-Cal stuff, but if you get FFP coilovers you can raise the rear of your car quite a bit, or slam it down on the ground if you want. you gotta pull the wheels off to adjust tho. joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 that wouldn't be too much though, at most (I figure) 3 - 4 inches at lift, because there is 6 inches of adjustment, that means from all the way down, it'll move 6 inches up.... I'm assuming it has a 2 - 3 inch drop ability.... most likely drops more than it lifts, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 jeezus, 8-10 inches? Your CV axles will self destruct WELL before you get 8 inches higher than stock. You can only get like 3-4 out of IFS Chevy without a front axle drop. So...in theory..... You'll need special long travel A-arms, maybe mounted to the center of the subframe, for extra travel without being 10 feet wide. Then you're still stuck for axles. Hummer style gearboxes? Trick..... The rear would be easier, extended trailing arms, overarched metal leaf, long ass struts or spacers bolted to the body/top of strut. Or just rip the whole engine/trans out, all front and rear suspension, find a rollover blazer or something and mount your car on top of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 but, then it wouldn't be a W-Body special I know I'll have to change the axles.... but yeah, I was just wondering if there was kits for it or something... I want it rallyified, but with more off road capability... if possible... but a minimum of rallyness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Or just rip the whole engine/trans out, all front and rear suspension, find a rollover blazer or something and mount your car on top of it. if you want 8"-10" of lift (!), than mounting your car body on a full size Blazer frame sounds like the easiest way. joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 ...damn.... okay.... so how about for average rally car height... are the FFP coil overs enough for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJB Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 What is your car and why the hell do you need so much ground clearance? It seems like you need a truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 a 1993 Lumina Z34.... and I want ground clearance 'cuz I want it to be a rally car.... or a mega boss off-road looking type device, with half assed off road ability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 a 1993 Lumina Z34.... and I want ground clearance 'cuz I want it to be a rally car.... or a mega boss off-road looking type device, with half assed off road ability... Wrong frame... Wrong drive-train... Wrong pricetag... Whoa, if you make it up Pikes Peak (at race speeds) here in Colorado with your Z34 intacted, I will worship the ground you walk on. Promise. - RedFox340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 a 1993 Lumina Z34.... and I want ground clearance 'cuz I want it to be a rally car.... or a mega boss off-road looking type device, with half assed off road ability... Wrong frame... Wrong drive-train... Wrong pricetag... Whoa, if you make it up Pikes Peak (at race speeds) here in Colorado with your Z34 intacted, I will worship the ground you walk on. Promise. - RedFox340 If I get the chance, I'll go for it well.... maybe... I've never actually seen Pikes Peak, so I dunno... :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperRed90TGp Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 No advice here. Go visit the low ridders forum. I am sure they can hook you up with lift gate pumps and the like. Couldn't help it guy's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Actually, I measured once and my Cutlass already has nearly 8" of ground clearance. You could probably accomplish this with air springs. A complete air suspension will be pretty pricey though. Maybe $5,000 or so since it would have to be a custom setup. I don't think FWD makes for a very capable off-roader though. You're better off just buying something like an Audi Allroad Quattro which has AWD and adjustable ride height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 I remember my first car. I thought it would be cool to have it sit like a '70s musclecar. So in went the air shocks. Now I laugh about it. (maybe I started the rice fad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 the Cutlass has 8" of ground clearance? :shock: is that the top of the suspension, or rideable ground clearance, though? most likely top of the suspension, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 I seem to remember measuring it from the bottom of the ground-effects to the ground. I'll have to check it again as that sounds like crossover vehicle ground clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 O_O from the bottom of the ground effects is 8" ?? o.o I didn't think the Z34 was that much lower.... *goes and measures* okay.... so stock is 8.5" but I wanted to add another 8" or so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 I just measured my Cutty from the floor to the lowest point on the unibody frame, and I have a full 7.5" of ground clearance! An AWD W-body would have made a pretty capable off-roader. Anyway, you want an additional 8" of lift? I think you bought the wrong car, what you want is a 4x4 truck! I didn't think rally racers were lifted at all??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Ha ha ha! I agree with you man. Dude, you need an Audi S4 or a Subaru WRX! a 1993 Lumina Z34.... and I want ground clearance 'cuz I want it to be a rally car.... or a mega boss off-road looking type device, with half assed off road ability... Wrong frame... Wrong drive-train... Wrong pricetag... Whoa, if you make it up Pikes Peak (at race speeds) here in Colorado with your Z34 intacted, I will worship the ground you walk on. Promise. - RedFox340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 okay, so maybe not quite 8" but, I do want more clearance.... and besides, lots of Rally cars are FF edit: still nothing on my other question, eh? o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 okay, so maybe not quite 8" but, I do want more clearance.... and besides, lots of Rally cars are FF edit: still nothing on my other question, eh? o.o For your other question, you either need a new MEMCAL or a new ECM. At least that'd be my guess. I'm not sure I understand your definition of a rally car... when I think rally car, I think of something that looks like this: Or even this: http://webhome.idirect.com/~craig/suz/Suzuki.htm I don't see 16" of ground clearance on any of those! Sounds like you wanna go rock crawling or bogging with that kind of ground clearance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted May 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 For your other question, you either need a new MEMCAL or a new ECM. At least that'd be my guess. I'm not sure I understand your definition of a rally car... when I think rally car, I think of something that looks like this: Or even this: http://webhome.idirect.com/~craig/suz/Suzuki.htm I don't see 16" of ground clearance on any of those! Sounds like you wanna go rock crawling or bogging with that kind of ground clearance! ahhh, true, true I guess... but I do know, stock Z34 is NOT high enough (as per my last experiment.... quite a bit of scraping.... good thing the dirt was soft-ish and I was going slow...) how high to the FFP coil overs lift to, anyway? o.o and..... what is the rough cost on a new MEMCAL/ECM.....? :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 I think a new MEMCAL is around $55 and a remanufactured ECM is about $100 with exchange. It's pretty pricey, but I don't know how you can rule out one or the other without some spare parts to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfox340 Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 ahhh, true, true I guess... but I do know, stock Z34 is NOT high enough (as per my last experiment.... quite a bit of scraping.... good thing the dirt was soft-ish and I was going slow...) how high to the FFP coil overs lift to, anyway? o.o Ah... I say follow the trends of the Dodge Durango / Dakota, the Toyota 4Runner, and the all pianful to work on Volkswagen Eurovan: PUT ON SKIDPLATES! Gawd, I hate those suckers... beware, it's the biggest PITA to remove just to change the damn oil! Grrrrrrr... - RedFox340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 :guns: skidplates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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