chadz34 Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 I am starting to think Slick was right about my starting problems. He said my starter was starting to go out, and today and a few other times my starter will studder. It will crank and then shut off with power still going to the starter. And then it just kept cranking.....so I am pretty sure Slick was right, it probably is shot and has a lot of flat spots in it. Any ideas? Also, if someone knows how to put a starter on my dad and I will tackle this. Secondly, sorry to Slick whom I ignored about this posible problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Disconnect battery. Jack car up. Put car on jack stands. Crawl underneath, remove plastic shield (if it's even there, I believe held on by a bolt or two). Remove the 2 bolts that hold the starter. Remove the nuts that are holding the electrical connections in place(and do not mix the two up!). Fannagle the starter out of there (removing the oil filter makes a lot more room for this to happen). Pick up a 2000+ 3100/3400 starter. It's lighter and smaller. Installation is just the reverse, except easier because the newer ones are lighter and smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Disconnect battery. Jack car up. Put car on jack stands. Crawl underneath, remove plastic shield (if it's even there, I believe held on by a bolt or two). Remove the 2 bolts that hold the starter. Remove the nuts that are holding the electrical connections in place(and do not mix the two up!). Fannagle the starter out of there (removing the oil filter makes a lot more room for this to happen). Pick up a 2000+ 3100/3400 starter. It's lighter and smaller. Installation is just the reverse, except easier because the newer ones are lighter and smaller. AWESOME, Thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Yep, like I said though, get one from a newer 3100/3400 equipped car. Like a grand am, monte carlo, impala, etc... Hell, I think the 4 banger starters are the exact same as the V6's as well. They might be a bit more expensive though, but well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Other then being smaller and lighter do they last longer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Other then being smaller and lighter do they last longer?? Not totally sure. I think I've read they are high torque or high stall convertors though. There are tons of threads about these newer starters though. Just don't use the search function, it blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 So should I get one form a 3100 or a 3400 or are they the exact same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 they are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 should be the same. when i picked up mine it was cheaper, too. score one for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1234 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 mother fucker. i wish i would have know this before i replaced the starter on the white lumina. It was a BITCH to get out and then in. Let a lond putting the nuts on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Didn't we all say it was the starter? I think I was the first to mention it actually. When I replaced my starter I went to the parts store and looked at a bunch of different ones. THEY ARE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT MODELS. IIRC- The smallest one I found was for a 99 Malibu w/3100. I'm pretty sure though all 2000+ have the small one for sure. Believe it will be quite a bit smaller. Yeah, and they are high torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Didn't we all say it was the starter? I think I was the first to mention it actually. When I replaced my starter I went to the parts store and looked at a bunch of different ones. THEY ARE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT MODELS. IIRC- The smallest one I found was for a 99 Malibu w/3100. I'm pretty sure though all 2000+ have the small one for sure. Believe it will be quite a bit smaller. Yeah, and they are high torque I've been telling him to replace his starter since he first started having problems with it. And repeated it in every damn thread he brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Didn't we all say it was the starter? I think I was the first to mention it actually. When I replaced my starter I went to the parts store and looked at a bunch of different ones. THEY ARE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT MODELS. IIRC- The smallest one I found was for a 99 Malibu w/3100. I'm pretty sure though all 2000+ have the small one for sure. Believe it will be quite a bit smaller. Yeah, and they are high torque I've been telling him to replace his starter since he first started having problems with it. And repeated it in every damn thread he brought up. Yeah, Slick you did. I'm sorry for not listening but you have good info so I won't make that mistake again. So, what does high torque mean? That it turns the motor harder to make it start faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Make it simple for you, it should start quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 you know, i never thought about it before you mentioned that, but it does seem to start quicker than before. only a few turns over instead of like 4 or 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Torque is twisting force, so if something has more torque it means it has more twisting force or power. Ever tried to turn a motor over by hand? Yeah, it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Especially something with high compression like my dads car. Adjusting valve lash on that sucks, half the battle is turning the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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