Regal_GS_1989 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 Also, your car might not be capable of holding manual 2nd. I know that my GS WILL go into 3rd @ 5700 RPM, even with the shifter in 2. All that is strange because its not electronically controlled. Quote
97loudcut Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Posted September 25, 2006 I am going to use my 17's because they are lighter, wider, and hook great Quote
Euro Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 they hook great? i thought you said your tires were like 30% Quote
97loudcut Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Posted September 25, 2006 they are but they still hook great whenever I launch. plus my stock tires are oversized and HEAVY Quote
97loudcut Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Posted September 25, 2006 16.5 @83ish. We all know what your car ran, this thread is about my car Quote
bill6639 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 any body race any series one 3800's am i gonna need to shift into 3rd before the end? i know the power really drops off after like mid 4k's Quote
terryk2003 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 17.4 @ 70 something MPH...thats what my cutlass ran! Quote
97loudcut Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Posted September 25, 2006 that's terrible terry.. you had something wrong Quote
mfewtrail Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 I'll guess 16.6 to 16.7@80 to 81mph. Quote
terryk2003 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 yup...just found the slip... 17.488 @ 79.11MPH ...2.564 60Ft.. Quote
Euro Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 damn thats horrid terry!!! even i had a 2.1 60ft and i ran a 17.5(if that doesn't tell you the 3.1 MPFI torque range than i dunno what else will LOL) Quote
terryk2003 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 i guess with a 2.1 60ft i woulda been in the 16's though...maybe its just my shitty skillz... Quote
patgizz Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 i guess 17.0 @ 78 you don't wanna know what my euro ran before i swapped out the 3.1 Quote
FastSE2DR Posted September 25, 2006 Report Posted September 25, 2006 My 60' I think were like 2.4-2.3 and I ran 16.9@89 in my 3100 GP...the track temp was like 125degrees tho and my tranny was shifting so slow. Quote
Euro Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 i guess 17.0 @ 78 you don't wanna know what my euro ran before i swapped out the 3.1 i do i do!!!! Quote
patgizz Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 18.15 @ 70 on a perfect launch, .52 r/t(on a .500 tree), no wheelspin. i've been racing forever, i know how to drive, the car was just slow as hell. Quote
RobertISaar Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 So I am going to be heading up to Milan soon to see what the Cutlass does. Milan Motor Speedway? you might be close to where i am, Tri-state area michigan. Quote
slick Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 So I am going to be heading up to Milan soon to see what the Cutlass does. Milan Motor Speedway? you might be close to where i am, Tri-state area michigan. Theres a lot of us in this area. I'm in Toledo myself. Quote
Pontiac6KSTEAWD Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 Tuesday was also my first time to the track. So my information may be good. It helped me some.. When you see the 3rd light, launch. Thats what I did on 2 of my best RT's on tuesday. A .026 and a .052. Brake torque to about 2300 RPM, but since you dont have a functional tach (like me) play it by ear. You dont want it to the point your brake wont hold, cause that will only lead to wheel spin. You want a touch less than that. Once you do get a launch with little to no wheel spin, go about 2-5 feet (or until you know you are moving and not burning rubber) and nail it. Do not do any type of burn out. Unless you are running slicks, its useless. Cool looking? yes!!! But it will not help you unless you are trying to burn off that other 30% of your tread. Go around the water pit. Straighten your car out, and back up to the water pit so your back wheels are almost in it. Brake torque it to the maximum so you do a small, quick, burn out. This will just scuff up the tires some, and get any loose debri off the tires. Also, dont have anything in your car. If your track is like mine, you cant pass TECH if you have anything loose in the car. Over inflate your rear tires to the maximum setting on the side wall of the tire. Should be like 40-44 PSI. That will give you less rolling resistance. Lower your front tire pressure some if you find yourself doing more burning out then not. Last thing, bring a pocket screwdriver with you to the track, and take your license plates off befor you get into the staging lanes AFTER you have gone thru TECH. Insurance companies are now writing license plate numbers down at the track, and cancelling policies. Its BS, but they do it out here. I cant think of anything else but make sure your windows are rolled up, your seat belt is on, dont blow up your engine or tranny, AND HAVE FUN!!!! [Hijack] When I had my TGP at the track, since its vacume modulated, should I have left it in second gear? Would it have automaticly shifted? or was it best to leave it in D (Not OD)? My 1/4 speeds were 86 and 87 at the line.. Quote
mfewtrail Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 [Hijack] When I had my TGP at the track, since its vacume modulated, should I have left it in second gear? Would it have automaticly shifted? or was it best to leave it in D (Not OD)? My 1/4 speeds were 86 and 87 at the line.. Brian, leaving it in 2nd gear should hold 2nd gear since we have fully vacuum operated transaxles. 2nd is only good to 82mph max(~5600rpm..I'm pretty sure 5600rpms is correct, because 3rd is limited to our claimed "128mph" top speed @ 5600rpms). Quote
BIGBULS Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 I agree about not holding second in a TGP........... My advice there was specifically for the L82 guys (and in modified form [higher rpm] for LQ1 auto's). I would need a dyno chart of YOUR TGP and an idea of exactly what your toque convertor does for lockup strategy off of each shift to give you an ideal shiftpoint for the TGP.............lets just say that it's below 5600 though .............those 3.1 Turbos die past 5K....... Quote
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