i need new rotors what should i get?

[bill6639]

hey when i bought my regal the brakes ahd a pretty bad pulse in them and i told the dealer about it and he said for me to take it back to him and he would cut em for me no charge

 

well i take it back and he said that its just rust and i need to give it time

 

well i now gave it time and my rotors are now oing to have to be changed

 

im going to send the dealer the bill for the rotors and pads

 

what type of rotors should i get for my 95 GS i dont have alot of cash to spend but i want to get a nice set

 

for pads im getting the mixed type pad a ceramic/metal mix

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

I have regular cheap whitebox rotors on for 2 years now with no problems...

[GutlessSupreme]

I have regular cheap whitebox rotors on for 2 years now with no problems...

 

x2 and I beat on my brakes hardcore.

[bill6639]

ok cool so i dont have to buy like expensive rotors

 

does anyone have any advice on brakepads?

 

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

the $18.88 or whatever whitebox rotors and go to napa and get the $20 pads...put mine on at 27k and at 52.3k they still have more than half of the pad left, I autocross the car, slam on the brakes really hard and all that happy shit and they stop better than the OEM pads did.

[19Cutlass94]

Dont get the Tru-stop pads from napa, they suck. Get the United brakes. More expensive, but worth the price. Plus its made either USA or Canada

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

Dont get the Tru-stop pads from napa, they suck. Get the United brakes. More expensive, but worth the price. Plus its made either USA or Canada

 

mine are true stops and they've been great for me. why waste the $$$? I just install new front rotors with every set of pads on these cars...

[19Cutlass94]

Id rather pay the extra money and be safe when it counts.

[joey b]

I have had absolutely no luck with the whitebox rotors and will not put them on any cars that I work on, my money or not (backs are ok, since they account for little of the stopping). All that I have put on warped in very little time at all. I normally buy the next grade up. Bout 40 bucks a piece. Warped rotors will lead to excessive abuse of the tierods, balljoints, and bearings. I've yet to have to replace the 40 dollar rotors due to warping.

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

Maybe yours are a different manufacturer... I mean theres no such thing as "white box" brand, right?

 

I have semi metallic pads. Also, with pads there are ones that are glued(?) together, and ones that are rivited(?).. I forget, but there's something you might wanna look at.

[Guest TurboSedan]

the "white-box specials" brand of rotors i use are Napa Tru-Stop. they are cheap and made in Korea IIRC but they seem to do the job just fine. as for pads i usually buy Raybestos PG Plus semi-metallic.

[joey b]

the valuecraft from Auto Zone also come in a white box.

[DiscoStudd]

Go with Raybestos rotors. Even the cheap ones ("Amica") are better than the "no-name" rotors, and they don't cost that much more.

 

If you get generic rotors and install ceramic pads, you'll be changing out the rotors in less than a year - the ceramic pads are hard on the cheap rotors and warp them rather quickly.

 

Ceramic pads = low dust and increased stopping distances

Semi or Carbon Metallic pads = shorter stopping distances and tons of dust

Organics = somewhere in between

 

I went with Raybestos PG Plus organic pads on my Regal, due to my experience with both Ceramics and Carbon Metallics on my old Lumina. Overall I'm pleased with them (they work well enough considering the limitations of the 1G brake system.) On the Impala, I have Raybestos PG Plus rotors and Satisfied "Severe Duty" ceramic pads. I went with ceramics on the Impy, mainly 'cause the whole brake system on the 2G W's is beefier than the puny shit they put on the 1G's. Also, the Impy came stock with ceramic pads...

[bill6639]

so if i go with the ceramic metalic mix that will give me good stopping distance and low dust?

 

 

[DiscoStudd]

They have ceramic/organic and semi-metallic/organic "mix" pads (both sold by Raybestos - PG Plus Semi-Metallic and PG Plus Ceramic) but there are no ceramic/metallic mixes, at least that I've seen anyway.

 

Organic pads are what have the good balance between the 2 extremes. I also forgot to mention:

Ceramic pads = long pad life

Carbon Metallic or Semi Metallic = short pad life

Organics = somewhere in the middle (I've sworn by Raybestos PG Plus pads for several years. They're a good all-around pad.)

 

Also, I wanted to mention that what's available today as far as brake pad selection goes is light years better than what was available 15-16 years ago. I remember when I first started working on my own cars, the brake pads that the local parts stores sold were utter crap compared to what they sell today. Even the "top-of-the-line" pads had rivets bonding the friction material to the pad, and quite often the friction material would break off from the pad, sometimes completely. That and you couldn't even get 12,000 miles out of a set of pads...

[5speedz34]

I skimmed most of this thread, so please bear with me.

 

Semi-Metallics are only worth it if you want brake dust. Ceramics are where it's at, longer pad life and little or no dust.

 

I buy mostly NAPA since I have a buddy there and I refuse to support the inbred fucks that work at Idiotzone and Murrays. Most Napa parts are rebaged Brand Name stuff. The ceramic pads are Raybestos and that's what I put on my sisters car with the WhiteBox pads. From what I've been told is Napa buys alot of the machines and lathes that the original rotors where made on for their factories overseas.

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

FWIW, my napa true stops hardly dust at all. pads that dust a lot usually are more easliy compressed and will give you a softer pedal feel also.

 

And also, i don't believe the ceramics will help your brakes last longer, they will most likely make your rotors wear more and increase DTV growth...My family has 5 cutlass supremes, 4 of which have true-stops and advance "wearever" rotors on it and there is no brake squeal, very low dust, and very long pad life. Not to mention you can do the whole front of the car for $60. Given the fact that i have 25,000 miles on my true stops and at least half of the pad thickness is still left, I can't see how i could justify buying anything more expensive. My original GM pads and rotors lasted 27,000 miles and were thoroughly shot.

 

my 2 cents is, just copy what i've got for a setup and go spend the money you'd spend on ceramics on a steak dinner.

[bill6639]

well i got my car back today

 

i love having an on campus auto dept. i only paid 7 bux for them to cut my front rotors put new ceramic pads on the front do an alignment and check a knockin the front pass. side when i turned right

 

its all fixed up now and the pads were 42 bux so all in all i spend 50 bux to get my car all fixed up not a bad deal i think.

 

and now i dont have to worry about if i ahve enough room to stop my regal beast

[DiscoStudd]

and now i dont have to worry about if i ahve enough room to stop my regal beast

You have a 1st-gen W-Body with ceramic pads, so is "one city block" enough stopping distance for ya? Maybe it took 2 city blocks with your old pads

 

I say it won't be a bad deal if you get more than a year out of your current rotors with those ceramic pads...

[bill6639]

they seem to stok pretty well i brake checked to see how they would do and at least its a HUGE improvement over what i had and now no more ugly ass dust

[94CutlassSLCoupe]

i never replace the pads without installing new rotors anymore...most of the time the swept area is fucked on the inboard side of the rotors

[dakiln]

I bought the GM stuff and it seems to work pretty well. They have two different kinds of brakes. The OE stuff and the Dura-Stop stuff. The Dura-Stop pads come with a lifetime replacement warranty and are made here in the USA. The Dura -Stop Rotors are also made in the USA. As it turns out these are made by Raybestos, not Delphi (this would explain the warranty). And the pads I put on the back of the Cutlass are ceramic and it makes a BIG difference. The pads and rotors both are pretty cheap from GM PARTS DIRECT. In fact if I remember correctly the rotors were the same price as the aimco's from Parts America.