Singh Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 I was talking to the guy at sinister performance (gmtuners.com) i believe. He said the engine it self will run aroudn $1000 seems like a good price to me, and labor aroudn $2500-3000. That sounds reasonable but I am going to have to do it myself with smoe mechanic friends because i cant afford that plus i dont even live near the guy. What do you guys think about the engine price? and i can have him program the ecu in my 94 gtp to work with this 3800 right? is there anything else major that has to be considered? or is this a somewhat boltin engine swap without any custom fabricating? I've seen some guys on this forum with 3800's in there GTP's i would like to hear from them. -Singh Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 yea im really sorry i see this was talked about a dozen times i'll go abck and read those posts, if anyone has anythnig to say tho go ahead, but im sorry for reposting this has to be annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 http://www.l67swap.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 he is charging way too much for labor on that. youshould not pay more then $1200 to doa swap. that is what i charge and takes 2 days. what else are you trying to due. if you want come over to L67 swap.com and i will give you alot more info. you can send me a email too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i paid 700$ total which included taking my old engine out, the engine came back to my house and i put it together (which you shouldnt have to do), but then he put the new engine in, relocated my coil packs, put on new mounts and starter and other things i bought for it, fixed the radiator, and then had to swap the alternator after it was all in and we found out it was fried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 matt is tralking about swapping a 3.4 for another 3.4 but going from 3.4 to 3800 should not be too bad, follow the advice above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 either way 2500 is too much for an install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 either way 2500 is too much for an install. that was my point, same basic process with a few extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted August 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Yea i thought it was pretty crazy but then again i expect any work u pay anyone to do is insane money as it is, thats why i try to get everything done my self and if i cant then somone i know good enough to do it for free or very good discounts. 700 bucks for install i could pay that but i dont know if anyone is close enough for me to swap the engine. What i need to know is any write ups been done on swapping a l67 into my car yet? or they arent needed cuz its straight foward enough? Hey for the guy brian or w/e i'll send you an email when i get closer to this project its still all info gathering for now i dont even know when its going to happen either before the winter or in the spring, but not this month for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 there are lists and everything on l67swap.com. right now the forum is being debuged but it will be back up tonight or tomorrow. where in NY are you at. ihave done alot of these swaps and there really isnt anything hard about them but if you do not know what you are doing it can take weeks or monthes to get it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 i live near the capital region (albany) upstate. i got some people who can help me, me and my brother alone swappd the engine in his truck and a fewother cars before, im not as stupid as i sound, but im no mechanic either. BUt with smoe help i can get it figured out, but since im here with w body nuts i figure you guys can shine the light over some obstacles before i get too deep. i'll check the sit eout later tomrowo i ghave to leave now thanks for the great help tho, i'll keep in touch about this -Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 http://www.l67swap.com/forum/cms_view_article.php?aid=24 http://www.l67swap.com/forum/cms_view_article.php?aid=2 http://www.l67swap.com/forum/cms_view_article.php?aid=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 let me know if you need more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 What i want to know is that when i do an L67 swap will the features still work from the cpu? like in my car i have a thing on the left of the dash it shows temp, mileage, gallons used, and you know wat it is, does it work after the new ecu or reprogramed ecu? or will it be totally pointless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 the DIS/DIC? You have an obd 1.5 compatable version in your car. 94 and 95GP have obd 1.5 version, but the 96 has the obd 2 version. It depends what pcm you use. You will have to stick with an obd 1.5 pcm'd 3800 to make it work, if such a pcm exists. anyone with more experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 you can not keep it unless you keep that PCM. the only way to do that is to keep the 4t60e trans. there is really no point to that. if you want a DIC i say get the 98+ one. i would suggest getting gauges and a panel for that cubby hoel and forget that thing. some guys have tried it and it did not work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Daaamnn... I've been planning this swap for a while, but I didn't think I was going to loose those features... What if one was to swap out for the 96 OBD2, and then use an OBD2 L67? Then could all that stuff work? How about the HUD... does that still work? (not sure how that hooks up) Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 the HUD is fine. not all the features are lost when putting in the OBD 2 motor. just some.on the 95 youwill have to put a 96 in there for it to work. gauges would be more useful in those cubbies though. you can also use the newer one in the center cubby. it fits OK and is not too bad to wire up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 any pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 those are the things i did to mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 whoa, i think those guages look cool up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 thanks i made the panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0matt Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 is that in your old black car that was sold to JD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianteel Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 yeah. the guages are still in there i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.