drgnlzrd Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 has anyone actually found a cold air intake that works? I bought one on ebay and I don't think it is doing what they claim...seems like more of a warm air intake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Cold air intake=in the fender. Warm air intake=what you have. What kind of car do you drive? Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 For a cold air intake, you can either have a FWI, as stated above, of you can put the filter down by radiator support ( which is where I was going to put mine ) But either way, you need to protect the filter from engine heat, or else its just sucking in warm air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam'ron Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 turn your battery 90* and run a pipe into the fender with a filter on the end of it. not sure if you have to cut the hole in the fender or not. i have the luxury of a 2003 monte so i just had to take the stock box out and voila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34Phoenix Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 i didnt do it for a 96 gp but my monte carlo has the same chasi. go to my website i have directions on how to do it. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/473859/6 one bad thing about runing it by the radiator support is water. most people think you need to submerge the filter to mess up the engine, this is wrong. water can splash up and get sucked in. this happed on my early verison of my FWI but now if you follow directions on that page you wont have any issues with water. Deff do the FWI its the best intake type out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I drive a 1995 pontiac grand prix se with a 3.1 I've heard lots of bad things about putting a short ram intake on a 3.1. I thought that i read that some1 dynoed a 3.1 with an intake and they gained 3-4 hp and LOST 20lb ft of torque. Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToroToro Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I thought we were due for another one of these threads... Yeah, the short ram loses torque. The jury is still out on fender well intakes. Seems like they would work good in theory, but I haven't seen much in the way of dyno charts so I dunno. Aweb has one on his '94. Might be something to check out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 another thing you can consider is just putting a K&N drop in filter into your stock airbox, and running a shopvac style hose from the box to below the radiator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 another thing you can consider is just putting a K&N drop in filter into your stock airbox, and running a shopvac style hose from the box to below the radiator That is what I have considered... however do you think you would run into any water issues (say when it rains) bringing water up and into the box? Part of me says almost no water would be able to make it all the way up the hose, into the box and through the drop-in style filter, then another part says it may turn into a rainstorm in there, soak the filter and you'd start sucking water drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 well...my original plan(til i got fog lights) was to stick the tubing in one of my foglight holes in my bumper. but now im not sure where i want to go with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam'ron Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 as long as your tube is vertical at some point i see no friggin way of sucking water up like that... unless your sitting in a lake, but then you got bigger problems than hydrolock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 3 1/2 years ago it was installed and zero problems with water getting sucked up. It was custom made with mandrel bent alum. and civic intakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 yeh and it rains like 3 times a year in Cali :flippa: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam'ron Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 car wasnt from cali originally matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 another thing you can consider is just putting a K&N drop in filter into your stock airbox, and running a shopvac style hose from the box to below the radiator That is what I have considered... however do you think you would run into any water issues (say when it rains) bringing water up and into the box? Part of me says almost no water would be able to make it all the way up the hose, into the box and through the drop-in style filter, then another part says it may turn into a rainstorm in there, soak the filter and you'd start sucking water drops. Even if water did get get all the way and into the engine, drops certainly aren't going to harm anything. Might steam clean your engine a little. You need to really guzzle some water in before it's going to hydrolock anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 yeh and it rains like 3 times a year in Cali :flippa: December-April, its nothing but rain. Its an odd climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34Phoenix Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 another thing you can consider is just putting a K&N drop in filter into your stock airbox, and running a shopvac style hose from the box to below the radiator That is what I have considered... however do you think you would run into any water issues (say when it rains) bringing water up and into the box? Part of me says almost no water would be able to make it all the way up the hose, into the box and through the drop-in style filter, then another part says it may turn into a rainstorm in there, soak the filter and you'd start sucking water drops. Think again. on my first FWI i hit a very bad rain storm . enough water spashed on to the filter that water got into the TPS sensor and in some vac lines! the filter was never submerged. just the splashing of the water into the fender was enough to do it! Even if water did get get all the way and into the engine, drops certainly aren't going to harm anything. Might steam clean your engine a little. You need to really guzzle some water in before it's going to hydrolock anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnlzrd Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Hey Z-34 nut .that intake looks great! After looking at how I could do my set up and hearing everyone talk about moving the battery and the whole fender issue...............on my car (95 grand prix se 3100) I am going to get some polished 3 inch tubing and just run it to where the origional stock box air inlet is. It is oval shaped but I am sure after some trimming and fitting I could get a cone filter in there. The air intake will then be just behind the driver side headlights ....no battery relacation and no cutting into the fender............sound like a plan or has anyone got any horror stories for me??........I'll get some pics of my car up soon after it get's an acid bath ( white cars get rust dots on the mouldings) and a killer waxing so she shines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Thanks. I didn't make it how-ever, Michael at FFP made it. I can tell you the exact process that its took, and how much labor and all that other good stuff goes. There was cutting involved in mine, but nothing to fear. Your idea could work, but I have never looked that route. Tony (5speedZ34) also has an intake similar to mine...how-ever the battery was located to the trunk. I have no idea what was involved with that and mabey he could answer some questions for you if his car was cut for the process. With my cut, my intake is VERY easy to remove, and replace. It was actually surprising how simple it was when I first took this engine apart for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 to move your battery to the trunk it takes but one wire and then ground the battery out and stabalize it there is no process although ABC charges $75 dolla for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 *Not to hijack the thread but...i have an amp wire that runs from the current battery postition right now, to the trunk. Could i use it to move the battery to the trunk? Would it handle the voltage? It seems to be a pretty decent gauge.* I had a differant type of intake on my car a few weeks ago. I moved the battery to where the air box is now and i ran a 3 inch pipe over the top of the battery and put a filter on it. The filter wound up being where the washer bottle was. I really liked this setup but the battery was too close to the manifold. I cant get to my photobucket account right now, otherwise i would put the pic up. Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 here is an intake that I custom made for the 3.4 dohc [attachment deleted by admin] Removed to free up storage space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Didn't you used to sell these? Do you still? Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 yeah i sold them. If you want one I suggest you either get a group of 10 people at 135 a piece or 200. Because in order to make one for you it cost a lot more. but yeah i made them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 afaik, im the only one with an exhaust tubing fwi on a 96. ive got a good post about it around here somewhere from last summer. havent dyno'd with it yet, but i lost .4 in the 1/4 with fwi and powrtuner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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