chadz34 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I can get a hold of a 1996 Buick Regal 3.8 Series II. I was wondering how easy it is to swap in to my 96' Lumina since they are both 96's and are W's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 But your Lumina has the LQ1, why would you want to swap unless it is the L67? Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 My plan was to swap it out to re-do some stuff on the LQ1. Kinda like a project. It's cheaper to do things to the LQ1 when it isn't in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I've been thinking of doing the same (with a mid-90s L36) cause hopefully the computers would be the same/similar and be an easy swap. Down the road change the wiring/computer and get the turbo kit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam'ron Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 sounds like he wants to simply put the 3.8 in there as a temporary engine while he builds a 3.4, i say do it if it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34-5speed Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Ok, so you still wanted the car to drive around while you were working on the LQ1. How about you just buy an LQ1 out of a wrecked car in a J/Y and put it in while you are working on the nice one, then you wouldn't have to change anything. Kyle "edit" the same thing basically was typed while i was typing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Ok, so you still wanted the car to drive around while you were working on the LQ1. How about you just buy an LQ1 out of a wrecked car in a J/Y and put it in while you are working on the nice one, then you wouldn't have to change anything. Kyle "edit" the same thing basically was typed while i was typing" They are hard to find around here, I think I may be able to get one....Probably doesn't run though. I would need a 96' engine correct? Or will any LQ1 work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 It's not as easy as pulling one out and dropping another in.... Basically what I am saying is that if your wanting to work on an LQ1 thats not in an engine bay, buy another one. Don't waste your time or money on an engine that's not beneficial to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 It's not as easy as pulling one out and dropping another in.... Basically what I am saying is that if your wanting to work on an LQ1 thats not in an engine bay, buy another one. Don't waste your time or money on an engine that's not beneficial to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbird232 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 It's not as easy as pulling one out and dropping another in.... Basically what I am saying is that if your wanting to work on an LQ1 thats not in an engine bay, buy another one. Don't waste your time or money on an engine that's not beneficial to you. That's the obvious solution. For what it's going to cost to modify your car to accept the 3.8, you'd be well on your way to buying a spare LQ1. If you drop in the 3.8, then you're going to have to de-modify it to accept the LQ1 again. Too much hassle. Save up and buy an LQ1, so when it comes time to put the new engine in, it's a simple drop-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 It's not as easy as pulling one out and dropping another in.... Basically what I am saying is that if your wanting to work on an LQ1 thats not in an engine bay, buy another one. Don't waste your time or money on an engine that's not beneficial to you. That's the obvious solution. For what it's going to cost to modify your car to accept the 3.8, you'd be well on your way to buying a spare LQ1. If you drop in the 3.8, then you're going to have to de-modify it to accept the LQ1 again. Too much hassle. Save up and buy an LQ1, so when it comes time to put the new engine in, it's a simple drop-in. For the cost of modifying the car(i'm saying this because from his other threads, he will need help doing this) you can pick up a pretty decently mileage lq1. Then, for the cost of the 3.8, and your probably looking at one in the $300-$400 range, you could buy a whole new gasket kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 For the cost of a 3.8 swap. ( depending on if its an L67, which the motor is worth more ) you can completely rebuild an LQ1. And maybe get a little more power from it as well. And if your wanted to put the LQ1 back in, thats a total waste of time and money to do that. If you absolutly need something to drive while doing this engine work, pick up a beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 http://www.l67swap.com Seeing as they're both 96's, you shouldn't have to do any rewiring of the 3800's engine harness. According to L67swap.com, each W-body model year is wired exactly the same on the bulkhead connector regardless of what engine it has. I would bet you could drop the 3.8 right in and plug the harness and PCM into your car with no problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 http://www.l67swap.com Seeing as they're both 96's, you shouldn't have to do any rewiring of the 3800's engine harness. According to L67swap.com, each W-body model year is wired exactly the same on the bulkhead connector regardless of what engine it has. I would bet you could drop the 3.8 right in and plug the harness and PCM into your car with no problems... That's basically saying any engine for a W-body is plug and play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I think you misunderstood my statement. According to L67swap.com, each W-body model year is wired exactly the same on the bulkhead connector regardless of what engine it has. In other words, you can swap a motor from the same year and it'll be plug and play. Any motor from a 96 W-Body will drop right into any 96 W car and will not require any rewiring at the bulkhead. If L67swap was up right now, you could look at the wiring diagrams and see what I mean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 But, doesn't that seem like a waste of money to get one type of engine when you plan on building up a different kind?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I know that the three 3.4's in the yard out here are 150$ a peice... Just get an extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 not to come off as a dick, but you just had the car to a shop to find a vaccum leak that you coulden't find yourself? i think you need more experience before you go replacing an engine, let alone a swap. its alot of work no matter what. i'd imagine that the downpipe would be different, powersteering lines, throtle cables, and lots of other misc things so what exactly makes you want to pull it out in favor of something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminal67 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I think you misunderstood my statement. Quote from: DiscoStudd on July 18, 2006, 01:50:50 PM According to L67swap.com, each W-body model year is wired exactly the same on the bulkhead connector regardless of what engine it has. In other words, you can swap a motor from the same year and it'll be plug and play. Any motor from a 96 W-Body will drop right into any 96 W car and will not require any rewiring at the bulkhead. If L67swap was up right now, you could look at the wiring diagrams and see what I mean... also depending on option level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 not to come off as a dick, but you just had the car to a shop to find a vaccum leak that you coulden't find yourself? i think you need more experience before you go replacing an engine, let alone a swap. its alot of work no matter what. i'd imagine that the downpipe would be different, powersteering lines, throtle cables, and lots of other misc things so what exactly makes you want to pull it out in favor of something else? Obviously you haven't seen a 96' DOHC. The vacuum lines are plastic, so you can't tell where the leak is without silicon spray. Usually you would be able to squeeze them to get to the leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 not to come off as a dick, but you just had the car to a shop to find a vaccum leak that you coulden't find yourself? i think you need more experience before you go replacing an engine, let alone a swap. its alot of work no matter what. i'd imagine that the downpipe would be different, powersteering lines, throtle cables, and lots of other misc things so what exactly makes you want to pull it out in favor of something else? Obviously you haven't seen a 96' DOHC. The vacuum lines are plastic, so you can't tell where the leak is without silicon spray. Usually you would be able to squeeze them to get to the leak. Obviously you take me for an idiot, its not too terribably difficult to trace a vaccum leak. i can gaurentee that i've worked on more LQ1s of any year then you ever will. and once again you have failed to answer my question... oh wait is this gona go the way of the "i'm getting NOS" thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 not to come off as a dick, but you just had the car to a shop to find a vaccum leak that you coulden't find yourself? i think you need more experience before you go replacing an engine, let alone a swap. its alot of work no matter what. i'd imagine that the downpipe would be different, powersteering lines, throtle cables, and lots of other misc things so what exactly makes you want to pull it out in favor of something else? Obviously you haven't seen a 96' DOHC. The vacuum lines are plastic, so you can't tell where the leak is without silicon spray. Usually you would be able to squeeze them to get to the leak. Ok, so spray some silicon at your vacuum lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Regal Limited Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 not to come off as a dick, but you just had the car to a shop to find a vaccum leak that you coulden't find yourself? i think you need more experience before you go replacing an engine, let alone a swap. its alot of work no matter what. i'd imagine that the downpipe would be different, powersteering lines, throtle cables, and lots of other misc things so what exactly makes you want to pull it out in favor of something else? Obviously you haven't seen a 96' DOHC. The vacuum lines are plastic, so you can't tell where the leak is without silicon spray. Usually you would be able to squeeze them to get to the leak. Obviously you take me for an idiot, its not too terribably difficult to trace a vaccum leak. i can gaurentee that i've worked on more LQ1s of any year then you ever will. and once again you have failed to answer my question... oh wait is this gona go the way of the "i'm getting NOS" thread? OMG everything you said was true! BTW you have the link to the NOS thread? I missed that one. EDIT Found it and OMG LOLOLOLOLOLOL please go buy a beater or somthing forigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockTherapy Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 *grabs popcorn* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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