no1kicker Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 I'm in the process of replacing engines. The old engine is seized so I can't rotate it to get to the TC bolts. I've got the rockers and plugs out, and LIM off. I'm going to dump a bunch of PB blaster down to try and free up the bottom end. Also going to Sears to buy a large breaker bar. Any other suggestions? Quote
dalejw3 Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 I'm in the process of replacing engines. The old engine is seized so I can't rotate it to get to the TC bolts. I've got the rockers and plugs out, and LIM off. I'm going to dump a bunch of PB blaster down to try and free up the bottom end. Also going to Sears to buy a large breaker bar. Any other suggestions? I heard that marvel mystery oil in the cylinders works good too. Quote
herb427sc Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Pull the oil pan. loosen the nuts on the connecting rods and the bolts for the main bearings. Then you should be able to rotate the assembly.. Quote
89GP_SE Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 you know back when stacy david used to be on trucks he had this happen with the .. i think hairy hauler project. He took out the spark plugs and sprayed wd40 in the holes and turned the fan back and forth to break it free.. now I dont know how you would go about doing that on our cars cuase you would have to find the crank and attach something to it to turn it back and forth while you sprayed the holes Quote
Regal_GS_1989 Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 now I dont know how you would go about doing that on our cars cuase you would have to find the crank and attach something to it to turn it back and forth while you sprayed the holes What about a socket and a breaker bar, if it will fit ?? Quote
89GP_SE Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 now I dont know how you would go about doing that on our cars cuase you would have to find the crank and attach something to it to turn it back and forth while you sprayed the holes What about a socket and a breaker bar, if it will fit ?? Thats what i mean, you would have to give it a try, I personally have never done it, but hey tv dont lie Quote
Mach 5 Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 I remember that epidsode. Wasn't that the trunk that I stuck the machine guns on? -You should spray WD 40 in the spark plug holes and leave them open. Then try using a breaker(maybe with a pipe on the end) and an impact gun socket(there stronger) and put that on the crank serpentine pulley thing. wiggle it and it should free up. Quote
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 now I dont know how you would go about doing that on our cars cuase you would have to find the crank and attach something to it to turn it back and forth while you sprayed the holes What about a socket and a breaker bar, if it will fit ?? Thats what i mean, you would have to give it a try, I personally have never done it, but hey tv dont lie you can usually spin the engine over with a socket that fits on the harmonic balancer retaining nut. I've done this on many cars in the past, works fine. Quote
1990lumina Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 One of my neighbors poured diesel fuel into the cylinders of his Honda to free up the engine (it was seized too)....left it over night and it worked Quote
patgizz Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 and an impact gun socket(there stronger) they are not stronger. they're softer with thicker walls so when they fail, they crack instead of explode and throw shrapnel. also it depends why it's seized. if there was rust in the cylinders causing the seize, yeah lubing the cylinders may help. or not. but if it's in the bottom end(bearing melted to crank, etc...) the only hope is to remove the bearing caps till you find the problem. i'd personally pull the motor w/ the tranny and then pop the trans off and get to the converter bolts that way so no wasting time trying to get the motor to turn. Quote
GutlessSupreme Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Wouldn't that foul the cylinders? I think you're missing the main point here. The engine is seized. It's trash. Damn Greg, I thought you said you just popped a piston, not seized the damn thing Quote
no1kicker Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Posted June 21, 2006 The motor is seized because of a break in the oil feed line, to the turbo... So I would think the bottom end would be melted together. I got the engine to turn a bit today after lots of tranny fluid and a breaker bar. Still won't move much at a time though, and still very tough. I'm letting it sit overnight with some more fluid and also a longer breaker bar. I have an 18" now. I also might just pull the motor and tranny together, but I don't want to. And yes, I'm replacing the motor anyways so I don't really care how much harm I cause, I just want the old one out! Quote
White93z34 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Posted June 22, 2006 in the past i've had success with pulling the plugs, and filling the cylenders with oil, but then again it was a rusty engine, not a melted one... Quote
89GP_SE Posted June 22, 2006 Report Posted June 22, 2006 in the past i've had success with pulling the plugs, and filling the cylenders with oil, but then again it was a rusty engine, not a melted one... never encountered a melted engine... you could take down te top half of the motor and sell it on ebay Quote
joey b Posted June 22, 2006 Report Posted June 22, 2006 what about trying to rotate it in the opposite direction from which it lodged itself into the stuck position? Quote
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