Dark Ride Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I have a six speaker setup in my TGP, I had to pull all the wiring and replace it with new because it was all screwed up. I just ran speaker wire straight from the deck to the speakers, I did not include the spliter box. I plan to run a set of amped 6X9 for rear speakers, I've run that in my GP and it sounds good enough for the chicks I Date . I never plan on installing a sub. I'm curious what it would sound like if I had my front speakers set as the fronts from the deck, The Door speakers as rears, and my rear 6X9 as subs. That would sound okay, Wouldn't It? Thanks, Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I dont think it would good at all. Even with an amp powering 6x9's you still wont get alot from them. Id leave it like it was from the factory, and it your looking for just a wee bit more, then amp the 6x9's Other than that Id leave it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggsley456 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Do you still have the factory headunit installed? Because if you do....its going to be hard to crossover the frequencies to the different speakers. And remember.....most component sets(including factory) are not bi-ampable...so you are only going to cause more issues by doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted May 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 The wiring in this car has been COMPLETELY Stripped, there is nothing, no headunit, no speakers, Nothing. the only thing there is the wiring from where the speakers should be to where the headunit should be, which I just ran myself, there isn't even a connector in this car. I'm starting from scratch, which is the way I got the car. I dont think it would good at all. Even with an amp powering 6x9's you still wont get alot from them. Id leave it like it was from the factory, and it your looking for just a wee bit more, then amp the 6x9's Other than that Id leave it be. I'm not looking for a lot, I really like the way the sounds in my Grand Prix. Do you still have the factory headunit installed? Because if you do....its going to be hard to crossover the frequencies to the different speakers. And remember.....most component sets(including factory) are not bi-ampable...so you are only going to cause more issues by doing this. I just want to switch the speaker wires around. Plug the Door speakers into the rear slot on the headunit (Once I get one) and use the RCA to amp the rear 6X9. I'll also be replacing speakers with aftermarket ones. Sorry for not clarifing very well. If its possible to make it factory I would, but I'm not sure how, like i said someone gutted the system in this car. If Someone can clarify how to wire in that box I pulled out I will do that. Thanks, I Really Appreciate the help, Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggsley456 Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 To be honnest...I dont really know what setup your car has....what are the sizes and locations of the 6 speakers? Anything is possible if you are starting from scratch. And many will say it is actually the best way to do this type of thing. If I were you I would look for a nice 4 channel amplifier. And then use 2 channels for the rear speakers and 2 for either a small sub(preferablly) or to power the fron speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 i have 4X6s in the front, 5 1/4 in the doors, and 6X9s in the rear. Quote: Connect the 4X6 speakers to the reciever's amp front ouputs and connect the 5.25" speakers to the reciever's amp rear outputs. Then I would use an external 2-channel amp to drive the 6"x9"s. I think I like this better because every speaker would be getting more power, driven at 4ohms like they should be, and I could adjust the volume of each set of speakers independently. The only drawback is that I would have to buy an external amp, and the fader control might be a little wierd because the 5.25" front door speakers would be connected to the deck's rear output. Borrowed From this thread http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php/topic,39840.0.html /Quote Thats Exactly What I want to do, I didn't find that article the first time. That should sound ok, I was just worried about the door speakers sounding weird because they were set to Rears. If I do decide to put subs in, I'll get a 4-channel amp, but I doubt I will. Thanks, Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggsley456 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Do you already have all the speakers? From my personal expierience 4x6's are crap. I would get a set of 5.25 components and mount the tweeter in place of the 4x6's and then run a 4 channel amp to power the front components as well as the rear 6x9's. But if that isnt an option. You can do it the way you specified. But remember when you adjust the fade/balance in the headunit it will alter the fade/balance of the coresponding preouts as welll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I'm going to look into some other ideas for mounting the speakers as well, I already bought the 4X6s I'm going to see what I can come up with. You mentioned running a 4-channel amp to power the fronts, how would you wire that so that you aren't putting so much power on the fronts, is there a way to distribute the power, I've only worked with 2-channel amps. Thanks, Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggsley456 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I'm going to look into some other ideas for mounting the speakers as well, I already bought the 4X6s I'm going to see what I can come up with. You mentioned running a 4-channel amp to power the fronts, how would you wire that so that you aren't putting so much power on the fronts, is there a way to distribute the power, I've only worked with 2-channel amps. Thanks, Mitch Well the general idea is that is basically a pair of 2 channel amps in one....4 channels to power 4 speakers. All you do is run 2 sets of reas from your headunit to the amp instead of 1. And if done right.....a four channel amp will still allow you to fade the speakers in what ever manner you want. Thats exactly what I did. I ditched my dash speakers all together......they were useless running off deck power with my components installed. I got a 4 channel amp and bridged the 4 channels into 2 to power my components. The bridging increases the power output of the amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I had similar kinda setup in my 88 GP (except it had 4x6 in the doors which I hacked 6.5s to fit). I ran the dash 6x9s and the dash 4x6 of the headunit (since the 4x6 don't require that much power, and the rear don't matter much anyways). I amped the 6.5 in the doors with my 45wRMS 2ch amp. Since you already bought the speakers, I personally would amp the door speakers and run the rest off the headunit. What I WOULD have done though is put components up front (like someone mentioned above) and amp them, run the headunit to the rears. If you used angle brackets for the tweeters of a component system in the dash speaker location, I think you could probalby get pretty good sound. Keep in mind with all this stuff I have a single 12" sealed sub, cause I need the extra bit of bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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