want to do the 94+ parking brake upgrade

[kuntzie]

i used to have a site in my favs but i reinstalled windows and dont have it anymore.... i think it was like grandprixgarage or something.. or if anyones got the info let me know

 

 

Jeff[br]Posted on: April 23, 2006, 07:19:50 PM_________________________________________________http://www.tpsgarage.com/

 

ya i got it now

[Stevo]

To upgrade pre 94's to the new brakes. Is the new parking brake required???

[GutlessSupreme]

depends how you go about it.

 

if you use the newer able and adapt it to hook up to the body (or whatever the issue is), then yes. but you have to reform the mount bracket to bolt to the dash.

 

I believe there's a way to use the old cable/pedal but I'm not sure. personally I'd love to ditch that fucking ratcheting pedal.

[z284pwr]

depends how you go about it.

 

if you use the newer able and adapt it to hook up to the body (or whatever the issue is), then yes. but you have to reform the mount bracket to bolt to the dash.

 

I believe there's a way to use the old cable/pedal but I'm not sure. personally I'd love to ditch that fucking ratcheting pedal.

 

Agreed, I fail to see how a parking brake on the floor like that will do any thing of value in an "emergency" stop? Lets take our foot off the brakes to attempt to put on a brake that will do an even worse job at stopping

 

Throwing transmission in park > emergency brake on the floor....just have to have more guts to actually do it. Anyone ever seen what happens when you throw a race car in park doing 130+ because the brakes stop working at the end of the track :eek:

[GnatGoSplat]

Agreed, I fail to see how a parking brake on the floor like that will do any thing of value in an "emergency" stop? Lets take our foot off the brakes to attempt to put on a brake that will do an even worse job at stopping

 

GM never recommends in the manual or any other place that the park brake should ever be used as an "emergency brake". They're also very careful to always call it a parking brake. I think this might even apply to all GM products since there was a discussion about this on one of the truck forums I'm a member of (their park brakes don't work worth a crap either).

 

 

 

[fastbird232]

They're good at sticking slightly shut all the time and wearing down your brake pads...

[Stevo]

Well the idea is 2-fold.

 

1. Provide a way of fixing the vehicle in place on a slope so that there is more than a transmission pin holding the car in place.

 

2. Allow an alternate means to slow the vehicle down in case of hydraulic loss by applying the rear pads to the rotor by slowly racheting them into position.

 

Then theres my 3rd fun means of the rachet parking brake...

 

3. put money into the aftermarket parts industry by creating a part that is 30% of your stopping value at 3 times the cost of your front brakes.

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

I would use the newer parking brake pedal... I like it better than the old ratchet style on my old car.

[Mach5Gus]

I don't know why everyone hates the parking brake pedal so much. The trick to using it for other than parking is to get it in the non-ratcheting mode- just tap it so it clicks once, then ease up on a little. As long as you keep some pressure on it at this point, it won't ratchet, and you can use as much or as little of it as you like. Fun for P-brake turns, wet or dry!

 

FYI, throwing the trans in park will do little more than wreck the trans- like Stevo said, the Park mechanism is just a steel pin in a groove, and it's not designed to provide any dynamic force, just static force when the car's stopped. All that happens when you hit Park at speed is a loud clacking noise, with little is any deceleration.

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

I don't know why everyone hates the parking brake pedal so much. The trick to using it for other than parking is to get it in the non-ratcheting mode- just tap it so it clicks once, then ease up on a little. As long as you keep some pressure on it at this point, it won't ratchet, and you can use as much or as little of it as you like. Fun for P-brake turns, wet or dry!

 

I have lots of fun in the snow!

[jeremy]

to the "Brakes" section

[Calvin]

Agreed, I fail to see how a parking brake on the floor like that will do any thing of value in an "emergency" stop? Lets take our foot off the brakes to attempt to put on a brake that will do an even worse job at stopping

 

GM never recommends in the manual or any other place that the park brake should ever be used as an "emergency brake". They're also very careful to always call it a parking brake. I think this might even apply to all GM products since there was a discussion about this on one of the truck forums I'm a member of (their park brakes don't work worth a crap either).

 

 

 

 

GM doesn't recommend it, but it is part of the FMVSS (federal motor vehicle safety standards) The vehicle is required to be able to stop with the brake in an emergency situation, which is why the parking brake isn't just a pin that sticks out and locks the drivetrain like in some HD trucks that do not have to comply to the motor vehicle standards. This is why cars with EPB (electronic park brake) such as the Lincoln LS gently apply the park brakes to bring the car to a stop when you pull the little switch.

 

Kurt

 

PS to the guy who said something about putting the car in park at 50, all it does is go BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, and then the park pawl grabs at about 4 mph, causing you to lurch forward and backward as the drivetrain winds up.

[ns87]

hmm, my parking brake rachet assembly broke, and I got another jy one. Maybe I should use the newer 94+ assembly. The guy on tpsgarage said you just have to bend some tabs