19Cutlass94 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Who makes custom chips for 3100, for my car. Yes I did search. Im just drawing a total blank right now. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 been wanting one for awhile now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 No, see the difference is I forgot who makes them, you just dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 We can't get them in '94 or '95 anyway b/c of that fucking bastardized OBD 1.5 ... And you're probably thinking of Ben (Vegeta) from 60DegreeV6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 No "chips" available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 I know there are a few guys with '96+ 3100 powered Monte's that have DHP chips. If we only have OBD 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Like I said no "chips" available lol. You can tune the pcm though. hahahaha (on 96+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Like I said no "chips" available lol. You can tune the pcm though. hahahaha (on 96+) Sorry I should have been more specific so they didn't get confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Fuck. I need a chip to go with the cam Im putting in so it doesnt run rich at idle.... and along with others things that are being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 good luck being able to tune our PCM. I'm sure it might somehow be possible, but i don't think anyone's bothered b/c of OBD 1.5. What all else are you planning on doing Jay? Who's doing your cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Im getting a cam from MMS. Im also getting P&P heads ( 3 angle vavlve job, LS6 springs, fulcrom rockers ) cromoly pushrods, P&P upper and lower intakes, bigger TB........ And I really would like a chip to make it all run sweet, but the way its looking I might not be able to get a cam....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Yeah us OBD1.5 guys are pretty much fucked unless we decide to change our computers. this guy put a newer 3100 in his old car and made it run off OBD1, so it has a MEMCAL chip in it... http://3100mpfi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbird232 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Whoever figures out how to paperclip a 1.5 computer will be famous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 you guys say OBD 1.5, but a couple of the mechanics I talked to said theres no such thing. Only OBD I and OBD II "1982-95 General Motors OBD I" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 you guys say OBD 1.5, but a couple of the mechanics I talked to said theres no such thing. Only OBD I and OBD II "1982-95 General Motors OBD I" They're full of shit. The system my and other '94-'95 cars run on is definitely not OBD I as it is most common. It's a hybrid, you have to have a code scanner to pull codes, and the programming has to be radically different, otherwise it would have been reverse-engineered by now. The ports are completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 They made code scanner for OBD I: http://www.obd2.com/personal/personal_gmobdi.htm But that whole thing is saying yeah there are different pins and such for OBD I and OBD II "Some 1995 GM vehicles are OBD II compliant" Im not trying to give you guys a hardtime at all. Believe me, but the forums here, are the only places Ive ever heard OBD 1.5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted April 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Well all the scan tools Ive seen have OBD I and OBD II, and GP was saying that the pins are different, so then wouldnt there be a tool for OBD 1.5? But there isnt.... These guys have been mechanics for over 30yrs, some 40...... and some of em work on driveability... so there useing the tools and such all the time. Im just trying to understand this....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToroToro Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 The OBD 1.5 cars use an OBD I 12 pin plug, but OBD I scanners cant read it. Hell, if I remember right, only a GM Tech 2 can pull the codes. I have heard of OBD II scanners sometimes working with an adapter, but sometimes they dont. The ECM is like an OBD II unit, without the right program to run OBD II. GM was obviously anticipating the change, and designed the 3100 and PCM around OBD II, but OBD II wasn't around yet. So yeah, it doesn't use a chip and cant be flashed like an OBD II one. Live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 OBD 1.5 is just a forum nickname for it. it's not what it's actually called, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToroToro Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yeah, but not just THIS forum. I've heard it called that everywhere. Technically it's just OBD I, at least according to the emissions label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 You say OBD 1.5 has no chip? If there is enough interest I might invest in some ROM equipment and offer ECU upgrades, but ya'll will have to help tune the ECU's. It would take a little while to figure out where the fuel tables are but I'm faily sure its doable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman429 Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 What's preventing someone from swapping the wiring harness, ECM, and ALDL connector from a true OBDII 3100 onto a 94-95 OBD1.5 car? The 3100 should be the same correct? If you can swap a 3400 (99+) in place of a 94-95 3100, what's to stop a person from swapping the ECM and appropriate accessories for a full OBDII setup. Maybe $200 for the harness, and ECM. Might have to monkey with the C200 connector at the firewall, but other that that it should work, Right? BTW: All the techs at my shop know of GMs OBD1.5, but none know it as 1,5, I have to describe the system, usually as "that fucked up shit GM did from 94-95." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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