z284pwr Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Wow if that is it, I feel bad for the poor guy that buys it without really knowing what happened to it, no way in hell I would run that engine without tearing it all apart and replacing stuff. That is definitely lacking some info for an auction too... Shouldn't a Bonny and a GTP both have the same drivetrain if its a 3800SC II? :? Quote
94 supreme Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 No it's not his unless his buddy lives in Arizona but jeez the builds are identical Quote
White93z34 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Report Posted March 17, 2006 Location: salem, AR my location: Around Pittsburgh PA secondly, his has 7000 miles on it along with a mess of sensors and the harmonic ballancer. the one we have sitting on the floor of the garage has 5000 miles and no sensors or harmonic ballancer he also goes on to mention a ZZP camshaft whereas i said eralier that he had the INTENSE stage one camshaft and just look at the pictures, the background looks nothing like it does in the pictures i took so might want to look at the description and fine lines before anyone goes burning us at the steak, i mean it took 2 seconds to see that is was some 800+ miles away from where i am. as for what he is going to do with the shortblock that we have, we don't know. he may try and sell it on club gp, but i doubt anyone will buy it knowing its history, even though i woulden't hesitate to use it if i had a modified Gen2, so more then likely it will get parted out. Quote
z284pwr Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Location: salem, AR my location: Around Pittsburgh PA secondly, his has 7000 miles on it along with a mess of sensors and the harmonic ballancer. the one we have sitting on the floor of the garage has 5000 miles and no sensors or harmonic ballancer he also goes on to mention a ZZP camshaft whereas i said eralier that he had the INTENSE stage one camshaft and just look at the pictures, the background looks nothing like it does in the pictures i took so might want to look at the description and fine lines before anyone goes burning us at the steak, i mean it took 2 seconds to see that is was some 800+ miles away from where i am. as for what he is going to do with the shortblock that we have, we don't know. he may try and sell it on club gp, but i doubt anyone will buy it knowing its history, even though i woulden't hesitate to use it if i had a modified Gen2, so more then likely it will get parted out. Yeah, your location kinda confused me but I didn't know if it was a joke, good to clear that up I guess the coincidence is just crazy Quote
luminal67 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Whats the reason for the balance shaft delete?Wouldnt it help to keep it in there? you have to disable the balance shaft when you use a double roller timing set. There is no room behind the timing set for the gear that drives the balance shaft. Quote
digitaloutsider Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/pontiac-grand-prix-gtp-l67-short-block-modified_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQitemZ8047192773QQrdZ1 Nows he's trying to sell it Location: salem, AR my location: Around Pittsburgh PA secondly, his has 7000 miles on it along with a mess of sensors and the harmonic ballancer. the one we have sitting on the floor of the garage has 5000 miles and no sensors or harmonic ballancer he also goes on to mention a ZZP camshaft whereas i said eralier that he had the INTENSE stage one camshaft and just look at the pictures, the background looks nothing like it does in the pictures i took so might want to look at the description and fine lines before anyone goes burning us at the steak, i mean it took 2 seconds to see that is was some 800+ miles away from where i am. as for what he is going to do with the shortblock that we have, we don't know. he may try and sell it on club gp, but i doubt anyone will buy it knowing its history, even though i woulden't hesitate to use it if i had a modified Gen2, so more then likely it will get parted out. 94 supreme, I'd strongly advise you to READ before you jump to conclusions like that again. n00bs.. Quote
AWeb80 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 intense stage 1 cam :shock: :shock: :shock: Sorry to hear about it, that suxors Quote
94 supreme Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 I didn't jump to conclusions, i didn't mean to burn anybody, and i'm sorry if i did and after i said it i posted twice after that it probaly wasn't him, i was shocked how close the builds were and i didn't look at the location jus like the other people who posted after me Friends everyone once inawhile don't remember everything about the build or are jus off a little bit that's y beyond the location the build is almost exact except one or two things that was said out of alot of info Quote
DaveFromColorado Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Kinda makes ya wonder what happened to that motor if he's starting the bid at $150.00 - I probably wouldn't buy it. not to Hi-Jack too much ... but what does the balance shaft look like on these motors? --Dave. Quote
terryk2003 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 how much did he pick up that JY L67 for? :withstupid: ...and how many miles does it have on it? Quote
White93z34 Posted March 18, 2006 Author Report Posted March 18, 2006 after taxes, and since he isan't giving them his old engine as a core it came out to just about $1000 exactly, its out of a 98' SSEI, with 23,000 on it, plus a 90 day warranty, and it came complete with the supercharger and even the fuel rail. like i said we hope to make back most of or all of that by either selling or parting out his old shortblock, and i've gone over it myself, the whole bottom end is pristine, since the failure was something in one of the heads. but its just too much hassle for us to be screwing with this high compression engine, and he just wants the car good and relyable again. i should have more pictures later, i'll be heading over there tonight for more work. Quote
manitcor Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 yeah, just from the pics I see I would say your bottom end is prob pretty sound. Those bits of metal look like either valve seals or spring retainers. Personally I wouldnt waste all that effort. Get the heads pressure checked and cleaned up. Check the deck surface and make sure its good and level. if not raise a stink at the machine shop and make them level it proprly and get them to compensate you in some way for having to redo the gaskets and such (I dont think its out of line to make them pay at least for a head rebuild and parts to redo all your topend gaskets). Once thats done rebuild the topend and be meticilous. Also I would pony up the cash for some ARP head bolts, but thats me. Quote
terryk2003 Posted March 19, 2006 Report Posted March 19, 2006 damn...that price isnt bad @ all...did thay have any more of those laying around @ the yard you went to!? Quote
cryptnix Posted March 20, 2006 Report Posted March 20, 2006 GET THAT INTENSE BULLSHIT OUT OF THERE ... Quote
White93z34 Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Posted March 20, 2006 well if you haven't noticed, this thread is about getting a un-modified engine in the car, i have no complaints with the intense cam that was in there, it definately helped the mind and high end. however the intense LSD he has, is coming out this summer. we did however just order a billet flexplate from intense, simply because we don't want another stock felxplate fail on us. Quote
White93z34 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Report Posted March 23, 2006 ok, i haven't posted ina few days, heres a update: woohoo, new flexplate, if he breaks this, somethings very wrong! whole mess of new parts - GM fresh! the engine bay all ready for the new engine almost in... and its in! reasembleing all asembled! reflashing the pcm! and its back in the driveway after a 40 or so mile shake down. overall it runs awesome, the new radiator completely solved the overheating problem we had been having, the car runs great now, and had no problem climbing to 100+. dosen't have quite as much oomph as i did when the old engine ran right, but oh well. i'm just so happy that it started on the first try and runs so well. Quote
5speedz34 Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 WTF?! So you got all that done in a week? BTW- That bonne is gorgeous! Quote
99RegalGS Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 Nice, I wish the inlet to my SC was that clean. lol Quote
ShockTherapy Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 looking good! glad to see bill is back on the road! Quote
SigEpCutlass Posted March 23, 2006 Report Posted March 23, 2006 that's pretty quick work you did there! Hope everything holds up this time! Quote
White93z34 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Report Posted March 23, 2006 from start to finish, it took us about 4 days total working in the evenings, we woulda had it done sooner but we had to wait for the new flexplate to come in the mail. i'm pleased with how it turned out, and that bonne, is his dads 05' GXP. awesome car! Quote
88Regal Limited Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Awesome! BTW, Was he the guy you said had the 12sec gtp or is that a diff guy? Quote
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