built eninge

[cutlass_driver91]

A.R.I Pro Builder 2.8/3.1 stroker kit (.020)

 

A.R.I Performance 2.8/3.1 Aluminum Cylinder Heads

 

A.R.I Stainless Steel Valve set

 

A.R.I Performance Valve Spring set

 

A.R.I Performance alloy retainer set

 

A.R.I Performance Valve Keeper Set

 

A.R.I Pocket Port & /Polish Exhaust Ports for Performance Heads

 

A.R.I Pro Builder Phase 2 camshaft & Lifter kit

 

A.R.I performance push rod kit

 

ARP head studs

 

ARP Head Bolt Set

 

A.R.I Freeze Plugs

 

HR Custom Headers/Custom turbo manifold

 

HR Custom 2 ½ Exahust

 

4T60-E Trubo Tranny

 

HKS GT3037S turbo

 

HR Custom Front Mount Intercooler

 

HR Custom intercooler pipeing

[Guest TurboSedan]

skip all of that and buy a new GTO

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

 

Yeah why bother with a 3.1??? That's mucho money to get like 230hp...

[THe_DeTAiL3R]

His Cardomain site claims

 

Bragging Rights

0-60 12.5 sec

est. HP 155 hp

est. wt. 3400 lbs

 

will be 10 second car with all those mods above

 

 

LMAO my 2.8 did faster 0-60

[cutlass_driver91]

yea i know how to drive a stick but its point less were i live too much traffic and with the amount of people that come here adn dont were to go be lucky to stay in 3rd gear and i dont wanna spend the extra money on a stick shift....12.5 sec is bone stock by the way and 3400lbs is minus 200lbs

[Guest TurboSedan]

12.5 sec is bone stock by the way

 

at an 1/8 mile track?

[J]

if your gonna spend that much cash, get a built 5/6 speed

[88Regal Limited]

For that money just go swap in an LQ1 and call it a day.

[patgizz]

i'd rather put in an L67 than buy all those parts.... and most everyone knows my opinions on those bbq's waiting to happen.

 

low mile 3400? theyre CHEAP

 

how bout a 3500 or 3900?

[R Dubya]

[1QUICKHATCH]

put a 3400 in it and get the heads done! if you are looking for some place to get heads done let me know!

[Robby1870]

12.5 bone stock.....must be his 0-60

 

This thread makes me laugh

[Dirty Rockstar]

Well, I must say the work is impressive.. Not a route I would have gone (At least to that extent)..

 

However, I think it is pretty awesome.. I want to be the first to say, HELL YEA!

 

Also, who's car is it? Not mine.. Therefore whatever this guy wants is fine by me.. This doesn't make me want to hold a grudge like someone putting a 6000 piece in a Grand Prix.. I have to draw the line somewhere

[cutlass_driver91]

thank you steve

[jeremy]

you might as well do a full swap so you have a better starting point then a 3.1.....

[Guest TurboSedan]

to spend that kind of money on a GEN-II 3.1 is laughable. stop dreaming and do your homework

[cutlass_driver91]

im not dreaming i got the money to do it i aint worried bout that im just dbueting on building a 3.1 intercooled turbo block just laugh all yall want poke fun or anything else ill post the dyno chart when i get the motor built i dont really care what yall think its my motor my money it blows up oh well ill buy a new eninge and the same parts and start over again ill admit i dont know much about the gm 60 degree V-6 but im learning i got some resorces thats one of the reasons im on this page 15 hrs a day just brosweing the message borde looking at other peoples problems and how they fixed them there not much for a cutlass out there i wanan make mine ultra rare cutsom turbo/ intercooler interior everything im even holding in a SS camaro type hood scoop and cutting out the under hood so the scoop will fuction

[jeremy]

im not dreaming i got the money to do it i aint worried bout that im just dbueting on building a 3.1 intercooled turbo block just laugh all yall want poke fun or anything else ill post the dyno chart when i get the motor built i dont really care what yall think its my motor my money it blows up oh well ill buy a new eninge and the same parts and start over again

 

here we go again

[cutlass_driver91]

heres a qustion who on here has built there enigne 100% compleat bottom up and added power gainers to it (aftermarket) exterior mods or anything?

[z284pwr]

Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1

http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg

 

However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision.

 

Oh yeah, make sure to grab a high stall convereter if you are going to be drag racing. Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line

[Prospeeder]

Wow, everryones solution is get a L67 or LQ1, mabye he wants to be unique, hes prolly going to attempt ALOT more than any of you, I say props for trying and it might turn out

[Guest TurboSedan]

Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1

http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg

 

However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision.

 

i say it's a waste of time for much the same reason as patgizz mentioned earlier. why not start with a 3100/3400 when they can be had so cheap? i mean, the guy obviously has some pretty high expectations (and money to spend????) and starting with a GEN-II not going to get him there. all of it is going to need to be custom, so why start with GEN-II stuff?

 

Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line

 

5-speed guys could set it up right too and the advantage would likely be lost i could probably far outlaunch a mildly modified auto TGP two stage homemade manual boost control and it probably wouldn't cost more that $50. moot point though - he doesn't want a manual.

 

i see a newbie posting a list of EXPENSIVE stuff he probably seen on some online catalog. no posts from him to back up any kind of experience. he looks like he's probably 17?

 

if you want to be the one to encourage him to waste his money, go ahead. i just think it's obvious he should do his homework before creating a wishlist.

[jeremy]

oh ya im SURE of it

 

 

 

 

can you imagine the Photoshop or Caption contests that we could have??

[Meddriver1]

So what if this guy wants to spend or ask questions. That is HIS RIGHT. Why do people feel the need to critize some one just because they do not agree. We ALL started somewhere, Had someone help us, mentor and tutor us. No one started just out of High school knowing it all. And if they claim that they did they are full of crap. I thought this forum is about a group of people with a common interest. But obviously like so many other things on the net that is incorrect. This seems to be a clickish forum of whiners. So now that this rant will prob. never get published. I will now step off of my soap box. If you have anything to add feel free to contact me and we can handle this as adults not just a bunch of kids in a sandbox!

Mark

Tulsa OK

[z284pwr]

Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1

http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg

 

However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision.

 

i say it's a waste of time for much the same reason as patgizz mentioned earlier. why not start with a 3100/3400 when they can be had so cheap? i mean, the guy obviously has some pretty high expectations (and money to spend????) and starting with a GEN-II not going to get him there. all of it is going to need to be custom, so why start with GEN-II stuff?

 

Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line

 

5-speed guys could set it up right too and the advantage would likely be lost i could probably far outlaunch a mildly modified auto TGP two stage homemade manual boost control and it probably wouldn't cost more that $50. moot point though - he doesn't want a manual.

 

i see a newbie posting a list of EXPENSIVE stuff he probably seen on some online catalog. no posts from him to back up any kind of experience. he looks like he's probably 17?

 

if you want to be the one to encourage him to waste his money, go ahead. i just think it's obvious he should do his homework before creating a wishlist.

 

Yes you are right, it IS a waste of money, I WILL agree with you 100% on this. We didn't go Gen III because mianly we wanted a direct swap. We were going for all out performance either, yes if we knew then what we know now it would have been different but all is good. I didn't spend the money for a bad ass race engine, I spent it on a GOOD reliable engine capable of taking the occasional beating and holding up together against boost. That and there is more aftermarket for a Gen II than a Gen III without going totally custom. Also, since our TGP isn't a race car, I kinda like the unique intake manifold writing on it 8) , I'll give up the far superior flowing heads/intakes for that

 

The 5spd yes, it does have an advantage to a point, but like you mentioned before, your W-Body 5spd Cutlass 1st and 2nd gear is ugly without proper throttle control correct? What is happening during this light throttle time, AT a dragstrip, you are loosing precious time, as those 2 gears are what get you moving. If you run at a drag strip, I'll bet your MPH is high for your ETs just for this fact However, you are right, he doesn't want a 5spd and we are getting to advanced anyways

 

I'm not encouraging him at all, I'm just telling him that going that route will cost him more than sourcing up his own parts, and yes, I agree, some homework needs to be done. I am lucky enough to have a good friend that builds engine so we did the homework together on what to do.