cutlass_driver91 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 A.R.I Pro Builder 2.8/3.1 stroker kit (.020) A.R.I Performance 2.8/3.1 Aluminum Cylinder Heads A.R.I Stainless Steel Valve set A.R.I Performance Valve Spring set A.R.I Performance alloy retainer set A.R.I Performance Valve Keeper Set A.R.I Pocket Port & /Polish Exhaust Ports for Performance Heads A.R.I Pro Builder Phase 2 camshaft & Lifter kit A.R.I performance push rod kit ARP head studs ARP Head Bolt Set A.R.I Freeze Plugs HR Custom Headers/Custom turbo manifold HR Custom 2 ½ Exahust 4T60-E Trubo Tranny HKS GT3037S turbo HR Custom Front Mount Intercooler HR Custom intercooler pipeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 skip all of that and buy a new GTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Yeah why bother with a 3.1??? That's mucho money to get like 230hp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 His Cardomain site claims Bragging Rights 0-60 12.5 sec est. HP 155 hp est. wt. 3400 lbs will be 10 second car with all those mods above LMAO my 2.8 did faster 0-60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlass_driver91 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 yea i know how to drive a stick but its point less were i live too much traffic and with the amount of people that come here adn dont were to go be lucky to stay in 3rd gear and i dont wanna spend the extra money on a stick shift....12.5 sec is bone stock by the way and 3400lbs is minus 200lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 12.5 sec is bone stock by the way at an 1/8 mile track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 if your gonna spend that much cash, get a built 5/6 speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Regal Limited Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 For that money just go swap in an LQ1 and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 i'd rather put in an L67 than buy all those parts.... and most everyone knows my opinions on those bbq's waiting to happen. low mile 3400? theyre CHEAP how bout a 3500 or 3900? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Dubya Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1QUICKHATCH Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 put a 3400 in it and get the heads done! if you are looking for some place to get heads done let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 12.5 bone stock.....must be his 0-60 This thread makes me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well, I must say the work is impressive.. Not a route I would have gone (At least to that extent).. However, I think it is pretty awesome.. I want to be the first to say, HELL YEA! Also, who's car is it? Not mine.. Therefore whatever this guy wants is fine by me.. This doesn't make me want to hold a grudge like someone putting a 6000 piece in a Grand Prix.. I have to draw the line somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlass_driver91 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 thank you steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 you might as well do a full swap so you have a better starting point then a 3.1..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 to spend that kind of money on a GEN-II 3.1 is laughable. stop dreaming and do your homework Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlass_driver91 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 im not dreaming i got the money to do it i aint worried bout that im just dbueting on building a 3.1 intercooled turbo block just laugh all yall want poke fun or anything else ill post the dyno chart when i get the motor built i dont really care what yall think its my motor my money it blows up oh well ill buy a new eninge and the same parts and start over again ill admit i dont know much about the gm 60 degree V-6 but im learning i got some resorces thats one of the reasons im on this page 15 hrs a day just brosweing the message borde looking at other peoples problems and how they fixed them there not much for a cutlass out there i wanan make mine ultra rare cutsom turbo/ intercooler interior everything im even holding in a SS camaro type hood scoop and cutting out the under hood so the scoop will fuction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 im not dreaming i got the money to do it i aint worried bout that im just dbueting on building a 3.1 intercooled turbo block just laugh all yall want poke fun or anything else ill post the dyno chart when i get the motor built i dont really care what yall think its my motor my money it blows up oh well ill buy a new eninge and the same parts and start over again here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlass_driver91 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 heres a qustion who on here has built there enigne 100% compleat bottom up and added power gainers to it (aftermarket) exterior mods or anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z284pwr Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1 http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision. Oh yeah, make sure to grab a high stall convereter if you are going to be drag racing. Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Wow, everryones solution is get a L67 or LQ1, mabye he wants to be unique, hes prolly going to attempt ALOT more than any of you, I say props for trying and it might turn out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision. i say it's a waste of time for much the same reason as patgizz mentioned earlier. why not start with a 3100/3400 when they can be had so cheap? i mean, the guy obviously has some pretty high expectations (and money to spend????) and starting with a GEN-II not going to get him there. all of it is going to need to be custom, so why start with GEN-II stuff? Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line 5-speed guys could set it up right too and the advantage would likely be lost i could probably far outlaunch a mildly modified auto TGP two stage homemade manual boost control and it probably wouldn't cost more that $50. moot point though - he doesn't want a manual. i see a newbie posting a list of EXPENSIVE stuff he probably seen on some online catalog. no posts from him to back up any kind of experience. he looks like he's probably 17? if you want to be the one to encourage him to waste his money, go ahead. i just think it's obvious he should do his homework before creating a wishlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 oh ya im SURE of it can you imagine the Photoshop or Caption contests that we could have?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meddriver1 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 So what if this guy wants to spend or ask questions. That is HIS RIGHT. Why do people feel the need to critize some one just because they do not agree. We ALL started somewhere, Had someone help us, mentor and tutor us. No one started just out of High school knowing it all. And if they claim that they did they are full of crap. I thought this forum is about a group of people with a common interest. But obviously like so many other things on the net that is incorrect. This seems to be a clickish forum of whiners. So now that this rant will prob. never get published. I will now step off of my soap box. If you have anything to add feel free to contact me and we can handle this as adults not just a bunch of kids in a sandbox! Mark Tulsa OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z284pwr Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Hey don't feel too bad, I spent a lot of money rebuilding a Gen II 3.1http://home.earthlink.net/~z284pwr/beretta/engine.jpg However, I am guessing you will get screwed over on the price of the parts. Source the parts up from well known companys instead. A much wiser decision. i say it's a waste of time for much the same reason as patgizz mentioned earlier. why not start with a 3100/3400 when they can be had so cheap? i mean, the guy obviously has some pretty high expectations (and money to spend????) and starting with a GEN-II not going to get him there. all of it is going to need to be custom, so why start with GEN-II stuff? Set it up right and the 5spd guys have no advantage at all on you off the line 5-speed guys could set it up right too and the advantage would likely be lost i could probably far outlaunch a mildly modified auto TGP two stage homemade manual boost control and it probably wouldn't cost more that $50. moot point though - he doesn't want a manual. i see a newbie posting a list of EXPENSIVE stuff he probably seen on some online catalog. no posts from him to back up any kind of experience. he looks like he's probably 17? if you want to be the one to encourage him to waste his money, go ahead. i just think it's obvious he should do his homework before creating a wishlist. Yes you are right, it IS a waste of money, I WILL agree with you 100% on this. We didn't go Gen III because mianly we wanted a direct swap. We were going for all out performance either, yes if we knew then what we know now it would have been different but all is good. I didn't spend the money for a bad ass race engine, I spent it on a GOOD reliable engine capable of taking the occasional beating and holding up together against boost. That and there is more aftermarket for a Gen II than a Gen III without going totally custom. Also, since our TGP isn't a race car, I kinda like the unique intake manifold writing on it 8) , I'll give up the far superior flowing heads/intakes for that The 5spd yes, it does have an advantage to a point, but like you mentioned before, your W-Body 5spd Cutlass 1st and 2nd gear is ugly without proper throttle control correct? What is happening during this light throttle time, AT a dragstrip, you are loosing precious time, as those 2 gears are what get you moving. If you run at a drag strip, I'll bet your MPH is high for your ETs just for this fact However, you are right, he doesn't want a 5spd and we are getting to advanced anyways I'm not encouraging him at all, I'm just telling him that going that route will cost him more than sourcing up his own parts, and yes, I agree, some homework needs to be done. I am lucky enough to have a good friend that builds engine so we did the homework together on what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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