PCGUY112887 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 So I go outside and warm up the car by driving around a bit, come back and set the ebrake and turn off the car. I pull the brake booster line and stick a funnel in it then go and start the car, it runs for a second then just dies and you hear a pop (looks like air right after it dies shooting through the booster line). I try it again and it does the same. I hood the line back up and it works fine. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 sounds like your doing it right but usually the motor revs up when a line is disconnected and bogs when you pour it in, mabey plug the hose with your finger and then puor some in the funnel and let it go through. thats all i can think to do, mabey try another line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Do I need to have it running THEN pull the line? Seems like it woulden't matter though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 what i did was pulled the line, then covered it with my thumb for a bit, since, for me, the car died with it totally exposed. then i used a small funnel, and cupped my hands around so that i would have the littliest hole possible for the air to go through, then pour slowly. the dangers of using the booster line is that its so damn big, can suck the whole thing fast, and when left open, practically causes the car to stall (in fact, it did stall on me, alot, till i found out i was letting to much air in) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitcor Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 I typically you need someone to help with the throttle and keep the car running, just have them tap the pedal a bit when you pour. Normally I use a small funnel and have it get sucked in through the vac line for the trans modulator its harder to stall out the engine with such a small line. The only thing about using the trans line you need to be ready to tell the person behind the wheel to kill the engine once all the fluid is sucked down as oftern times you wont be able to stall it when pouring the last 3rd stright in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cutlass Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Do I need to have it running THEN pull the line? Seems like it woulden't matter though... yes just do what they're saying and take the line off slowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 For the 90,000th time, use a SMALLER LINE THAN THE BRAKE BOOSTER. How many times does this need to be said? There's more than one vacuum line under the hood, you know.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 For the 90,000th time, use a SMALLER LINE THAN THE BRAKE BOOSTER. How many times does this need to be said? There's more than one vacuum line under the hood, you know.. The thing is, I've found no way easier than just shoving a funnel into the brake booster hose. You control the flow rate, and you have a friend or your third arm work the throttle. I've done this to four different cars, and each time, it's been a success. How people are screwing this up, I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Ok well I got it, used some tape on the end of the funnel and poked a hole in it. Had a friend rev it some and poured it. Not a ton of smoke but a good bit. Didn't die when I shoved the rest of the can in there so I had him shut it off and it's sitting for a bit now. SES Light started flashing when I did it, so I hope it'll stop when I go back out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I haven't been under the hood of many later first-gen's (read 3100 equipped), but on my car, I have numerous lines to choose from, and if you have an 88-93, the best line to use would be the cruise control line. Easy to get to, and the perfect size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Well I went ahead and did it anyways. It was the only line going directly into the upper manifold. When I started it back up there was smoke EVERYWHERE and I went down a major road here at WOT 4 or 5 times. The smoke was so thick that I stopped all traffic for a good 20 seconds :shock: . Someone must have called it in becuase there are 4 cops that patrol our down, and 10min later all 4 were pacin up and down the road and the stores/neighborhood around it. So I hid in a walmart parking lot and road around with a friend for a whial, then just now snuck my car home. Sure was a lot of carbon in there! When I was doing it the SES light started flashing, and it stopped when we were done. I took it to autozone to have it cleared like I do for anythign else and they decided to ask me a million questions thinking I was trying to get around emissions testing or something. But I finally got it done and all the carbons blown out and everything is good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 i love flooring it after a good cleaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdwhite Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I did the top engine clean on an '86 Cutlass in my college parking lot. It was the only perfectly calm day in the history of Superior, Wisconsin (usually very windy)... I start it up after the stall and smoke just billows out of the tailpipe. I had people yelling out the dorm windows that my car was on fire. This HUGE cloud of smoke hangs over the football field.... As we let the carbon burn out, here runs two campus safety officers carrying fire extinguishers...they were told the dumpsters were on fire. LOL...never had so much fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I love that shit. Tim calls it "Batmobile in a can". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I love that shit. Tim calls it "Batmobile in a can". LMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecez061388 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Hate to bring up a dead topic - but do you guys change the plugs while doing the cleaning? From what I understand, after you stall the motor, you pull the plugs, fuel rail, then crank the excess cleaner out the plug holes, put in new plugs, and enjoy. But I have never done plugs before, and dont know how to disconnect the fuel rail, to me that would be too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 the stuff there talking about you just run it through, let it sit then go for a speedy drive to clear it all out, i know what your talking about too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecez061388 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 so what stuff are they talking about? I am thinking of GM Top Engine Clean/Seafoam (same stuff different brands) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 yea thats the same stuff just two different methods of doing it. the quick way is to run it through, the long (better) way it to fill the cylinders with it, let it sit for a while and then crank it over with no plugs to shoot it out. it depends on how much time you want to put into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 What exactly would that be accomplishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 well if you fill the cyl. with cleaner overnight it de-carbons the cylinders and valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecez061388 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Isnt filling the cylinders the same as stalling the motor by flooding it with the stuff? And if I were to just suck 1/3 of the bottle in, stall it, let it sit for 15 min, then it would start right up and run fine? No plug damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 yea it will run fine, may be a little slow but you have to rev it up to clear all the stuff out that came loose, and when i mean fill up the cyl, i mean it literally. pour it right in the spark plug hole and let it soak, thats how some like to do it. i do it the other way fir times sake and its a big mess to shoot cleaner all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piecez061388 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 I might just try that soon then. Cant wait to see if it hepls get rid of 60K miles worth of crud and fog up the hood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 ive fogged up the hood several times, get a vid of it, alawys fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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