Intermitent Stalling at stops

[jfusco8102]

I have been baffled by this for a few weeks now. I have a 93 grand prix 3.1 automatic no overdrive. Every now and then when i go to stop, the engine starts bogging down and if i dont put it in neutral it will stall out. When i go to restart it it acts like it is still in gear. If i turn it off and then try again, it will restart fine but will not want to take off with out gunning the motor or it will stall again. Some days it does not do it at all. Some days it does it constantly. Some days it feels like it is going to do it, but it does not stall. It feels to me like the tranny is not disengaging sometimes. The trans never slips at all. It is quite solid, it just have this problems everynow and then.

 

Please someone help me. This is my wife's daily driver and it is not fun when it does it to her.

 

EDIT: I replaced the fluid and filter tuesday evening. There was alot of sludge in the bottom of the pan, but no shavings in the pan or filter.

[birdman]

have you cheched the fluid for the level and to see if theres metal shavings?

[jfusco8102]

Ok sorry, i forgot to bring everyone up to date. My bad...

 

Tuesday night, I replaced the fluid and the filter in the transmission. There was alot of sludge in the pan, but no metal shavings in the pan or the filter.

[Prospeeder]

Hmm, no overdrive? All W's had overdrive, weather its a 3 or 4 speed, do you mean the overdrive quit working? Mabye the Torque converters stuck, does it only do it after highway driving?

[GP1138]

All W's had overdrive, weather its a 3 or 4 speed

 

No. Third gear is 1:1.

[Prospeeder]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

[Grand Moff Joseph]

I'd bet on a broken TCC

[GP1138]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

 

You could get a 3-speed on all W-Body cars. I've seen GP's with a 3-speed in yards. I've seen a '95 or so GP junkyard car with a 3-speed.

[Prospeeder]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

 

You could get a 3-speed on all W-Body cars. I've seen GP's with a 3-speed in yards. I've seen a '95 or so GP junkyard car with a 3-speed.

 

ima have to call BS, The ONLY trans these cars got 94-96 was the 4T60E, and mabye another, but they were ALL 4 speeds, show me some proof any 94-96 cars got a 3 speed

[gp90se]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

 

You could get a 3-speed on all W-Body cars. I've seen GP's with a 3-speed in yards. I've seen a '95 or so GP junkyard car with a 3-speed.

 

ima have to call BS, The ONLY trans these cars got 94-96 was the 4T60E, and mabye another, but they were ALL 4 speeds, show me some proof any 94-96 cars got a 3 speed

 

Dude, your a tool, DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU POST.

 

There is a 3 speed 94 GP in the junkyard here

[Prospeeder]

ok, mabye a 93, but a 94-96, should i like, spell the words for you, ninety-four through ninety six pontiac grand prixs with a 3100 or 3.4L DOHC DO NOT have a 3 speed. but id love you to show me some info of one with a 3 speed, because iv never herd of that EVER

[GP1138]

ok, mabye a 93, but a 94-96, should i like, spell the words for you, ninety-four through ninety six pontiac grand prixs with a 3100 or 3.4L DOHC DO NOT have a 3 speed. but id love you to show me some info of one with a 3 speed, because iv never herd of that EVER

 

Dude, two people claim to have seen one. I'll go to the j/y and see if I can get a pic of it, but I definitely saw one.

[Prospeeder]

hmm we go do that, because i find that very hard to belive not one of the hundred, prolly thousand people on this site dont have one

[Prospeeder]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

 

You could get a 3-speed on all W-Body cars. I've seen GP's with a 3-speed in yards. I've seen a '95 or so GP junkyard car with a 3-speed.

 

ima have to call BS, The ONLY trans these cars got 94-96 was the 4T60E, and mabye another, but they were ALL 4 speeds, show me some proof any 94-96 cars got a 3 speed

 

Dude, your a tool, DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU POST.

 

There is a 3 speed 94 GP in the junkyard here

what reasearch did you do besides, my cousins friends brother and me saw a 3 speed one glancing at it in a junkyard this one time years ago

 

but now that this threads ruined, i say a Torque converter, but sludge in the pan, a machine flush would help that id think

[GP1138]

oh, never mind, 4 speeds have overdrive, but the 3 speed wasnt avalible that late was it?? 93? Especially the GP, i thought ALL 3.1 GPs had 4 speed OD or 5 speeds, and the Quads had a 3 speed but only till ike 90 or 91

 

You could get a 3-speed on all W-Body cars. I've seen GP's with a 3-speed in yards. I've seen a '95 or so GP junkyard car with a 3-speed.

 

ima have to call BS, The ONLY trans these cars got 94-96 was the 4T60E, and mabye another, but they were ALL 4 speeds, show me some proof any 94-96 cars got a 3 speed

 

Dude, your a tool, DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU POST.

 

There is a 3 speed 94 GP in the junkyard here

what reasearch did you do besides, my cousins friends brother and me saw a 3 speed one glancing at it in a junkyard this one time years ago

 

It's better than the research you've done. You haven't given any proof as to the validity of your claim. Absolutely nothing you've said dictates to me that you've done any research at all.

[Prospeeder]

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-specifications/09-int/1995/pontiac/grand-prix/

 

thats for a 95, dont see a 3 speed auto....

 

(oh and just so you dont think its being stupid and picks only one trans, heres the Grand AM just to know the site lists ALL trans for the cars http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-specifications/09-int/1995/pontiac/grand-am/index.html )

[Crazy K]

I experienced a similiar stall issue, it was due to a kinked fuel line. But it could be the tcc failing to disengage.

This says that 3 speed trannies discontinued by 1994,

http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/Used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2095/act/usedcarreviewspecs/

Additonally I looked up rebuild kits for the tranny only 4t60-e parts listed for 94 up GPs

[GP1138]

There, it's good to know you're not talking out of your ass, you should do that when you first dispute someone's claim, rather than rolling your eyes and acting like a dick.

 

That doesn't change the fact, however, that I've seen one.

[Prospeeder]

hmm, mabye it was cheaper to put on in off a 95 Grand am or similar? so they replaced it with a 3 speed cause they didnt care, not many cars by 95 had 3 speeds anymore

[GP1138]

hmm, mabye it was cheaper to put on in off a 95 Grand am or similar? so they replaced it with a 3 speed cause they didnt care, not many cars by 95 had 3 speeds anymore

 

There were plenty of vans with 3-speeds, but not many cars, yes.

[Prospeeder]

hmm, mabye it was cheaper to put on in off a 95 Grand am or similar? so they replaced it with a 3 speed cause they didnt care, not many cars by 95 had 3 speeds anymore

 

There were plenty of vans with 3-speeds, but not many cars, yes.

 

they had the 3100 in 95 ish era, like out of a transport is what your talkin about, not the RWD vans (wich i suppose also have 3 speeds)

[GP1138]

hmm, mabye it was cheaper to put on in off a 95 Grand am or similar? so they replaced it with a 3 speed cause they didnt care, not many cars by 95 had 3 speeds anymore

 

There were plenty of vans with 3-speeds, but not many cars, yes.

 

they had the 3100 in 95 ish era, like out of a transport is what your talkin about, not the RWD vans (wich i suppose also have speeds)

 

What????? I can hardly make sense of what you said.

 

Trans Sports either had the 3800 or the 3.1TBI I believe. And the vans I was referring to were Dodge Caravans and similar.

[Prospeeder]

oh, i thought we were talkin about GM, i was askin if the 3 speeds u speak of are like in transports and the lumina APVs and such, i know carvans/voyager had them forever, like up till 99 if i recall

 

(scince its a big deal now http://www.internetautoguide.com/car-specifications/09-int/1999/dodge/grand-caravan/index.html )

[Crazy K]

There, it's good to know you're not talking out of your ass, you should do that when you first dispute someone's claim, rather than rolling your eyes and acting like a dick.

 

That doesn't change the fact, however, that I've seen one.

pcs! Or VIN number! how do you know it was a three speed(what did you see)?

[GP1138]

There, it's good to know you're not talking out of your ass, you should do that when you first dispute someone's claim, rather than rolling your eyes and acting like a dick.

 

That doesn't change the fact, however, that I've seen one.

pcs! Or VIN number! how do you know it was a three speed(what did you see)?

 

The shifter plate said P R N D 2 1. No (D) 3 2 1 or (D) D 2 1.