cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I'm wanting todo the drop tonight but I don't have the torque specs for the knuckle and all that other jazz... Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 more specific? what car/part are you working on? fast forward performance drop front spring? or even ffp Rear coil over springs? Keep in mind I Haven't researched the parts but do understand how it affects the suspension. I'd also like to take a quick moment to ask whether or not rear coil over springs installed to lower the rear and remove the leaf springs may fatigue the gen 1 body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 in my sig cuz... (heres your line) http://www.fastfwdperformance.com ... the only suspension mod that they currently have? (heres your line) i don't have a gm shop manual in front of me ... so any persons that can find the specs for me ... THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 It lowers AND gets rid of that stupid monoleaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hey! i said I wasn't sure what they were offering!!! I wouldn't do it on mine at least. The Question I asked was whether the W-body is strong enough to ride all of the wieght on the fender well structure. i've read recomendations against, after all. from the 1994 CS factory manual (snatched from a car going into the crusher Who-Ho) jack pad bolt 25 N*M (18 lb ft) Spring Retention plate bolts 25 N*M (18 lb ft) Rod to knuckle 90 N*M (66 lb ft)+90 degrees strut to knuckle nut 180 N*M (133 lb ft) upper strut bolt 46 N*M (34 lb feet) trailing arm to knuckle 260 N M (192 ft lbs) any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 the only thing is did the specs change over the course of the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 The Question I asked was whether the W-body is strong enough to ride all of the wieght on the fender well structure. i've read recomendations against, after all. Its been proven ooo so many times. Not ONCE has any one had any complaints or problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 the only thing is did the specs change over the course of the years? very low possibilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I doubt it. All these parts are virtually the same on all gen 1's. In the least, I believe that the 94 and 96 should be the same. I'm horrible. I seldom use a torque wrench unless it has to do with internal engine stuff. But i know my weight on a 1 foot bar would be 175 lb ft... Tighten until tight. lol I've torn apart everything from an 88 to 2000. I even dropped the entire rear suspension in the middle of a parking lot and swapped them between two cars, struts, suport crossmember, and all! I had no book to compare, but it fit and worked. lol But for your peace of mind....Anyone else absolutely certain on compatability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 umm ... look at it this way ... it has a few special additions to accept the ability of being dropable... its been quized up and down ... you gotta look at monte carlo's and all that jazz... the only difference wit this setup is its adjustable theres no mono on the monte carlo's ... i dunno why you're so worried ... some kid in a lumina once told me he had the corvette suspension and his car was literally touching the ground in the back.... i doubt the kid even knew his car was the same body type as mine... i don't know everything nor do I try to imply it but this setup has been proven over and over and over; i think theres like 40k miles on that car you see above (z34_nut's car ... ) and I just the way Michael acted to me I doubt he'd EVER release something that wasn't "worthy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 -shrugs- Read it somewhere, but i can't find it now. It seems to me that they stated the Monte Carlo's sheet metal in the wheel well was thicker. If it works it works. If it should ever fail... Please let us know. - Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 i think i've had rear coilovers on my car longer than anyone here; since the fall of 2001 anyway. at least 80,000 miles. there has been no damage, nothing at all. i inspect the upper mount/fender area regularly. i probably put my car through more abuse than most people as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 heh tight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I like the look. I'm just asking about the mixed reviews I've heard. I don't plan to do it, and I'm not saying don't do it! FOR the Love of GOD! Make that car look nice! -Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Mixed Reviews??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I'll search for it and I'll post the link to what i read if i can find it. Seems they were worried about metal fatigue. Hey don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. - Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 what about the trailing arm to knuckle bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 lateral trailing arm to knuckle 260 N M (192 ft lbs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 oy all apart ... cept the monoleaf bolts are rounded off ... bah what todo what todo ... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 any people got some ideas for me ... ha heat it up & vice grip it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Try it otherwise... Grind their heads off... You may be able to remove their shaft later with a vice grip. (like every exhaust manifold bold on both my long lost buicks) Or just butcher the monoleaf... -ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 amazing! neither of my torque wrenches go up that high ... i guess i tighten the piss out of it ... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 pic! how is it going? how did you overcome the rounded out bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptnix Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 there are no pics yet... the pass. strut mount bolts broke in half :-( and the stop that stops the lateral links are the ones that are rounded of ... going to hax0r the monoleaf ;-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z34_nut Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 good thing the monoleaf sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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