MonteCarloChick Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 .. well just the VATS. Every once in a while she won't start so I wait about 5 minutes and everything's fine. Well tonight I went and met the boyfriend to pick up our new project ('86 Monte.. I'll get pics sometime soon.. but it's a piece) and started to head home after that was all taken care of in my car. I had to stop at the local supermarket to get some dinner before I arrived home. So as luck would have it.. I got the pimp spot (right in front on the corner). I go in.. get my shit, and come back to my car. I sit down and go to start it and immediately I knew the VATS is fucking with my head again. So I sit and wait about 7 minutes. I proceed to insert my spare iginition key now and still nothing. Ok, so I have a car full of groceries and my mom is waiting at home for me to make dinner. I wait another 10 minutes.. nothing. So now I'm pissed. I waited 5 more minutes then called my mother to come pick me up. I had to leave my car in the most notorious spot for car dings and such :x So.. my question is, will the car start tomorrow? Or am i screwed? I should've done that bypass thing in summer Crap.. sorry for the rant. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cutlass Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Maybe your car is more manly than you think.... push your boobs against it... it'll start right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 I wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Does the "Security" light flash when you're attempting to start it? I'm betting the wire broke off of the VATS reader if you say the spare key won't work. Well, you don't need to wait 'till tomorrow to get your car running if you make a quick trip to Radio Shack. http://www.likeabigdog.com/column/VATS.htm I had a guy e-mail me to tell me that he soldered a wire to each side of his spare key's pellet, then connected the wires to the VATS wires under the dash to get him home. You could try that if you're crunched for time, but I'd eventually make a proper "resistor pack" to go in there ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3pt1lumina Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Maybe your car is more manly than you think.... push your boobs against it... it'll start right up. Pics are needed for this procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Does the "Security" light flash when you're attempting to start it? I'm betting the wire broke off of the VATS reader if you say the spare key won't work. Well, you don't need to wait 'till tomorrow to get your car running if you make a quick trip to Radio Shack. http://www.likeabigdog.com/column/VATS.htm I had a guy e-mail me to tell me that he soldered a wire to each side of his spare key's pellet, then connected the wires to the VATS wires under the dash to get him home. You could try that if you're crunched for time, but I'd eventually make a proper "resistor pack" to go in there ... No security light.... I just put the key, turn and the dash lights go on/radio etc but no turn over. And thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ah starter? Go underneath and give it a love tap with teh hammer. Then try to start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ah starter? Go underneath and give it a love tap with teh hammer. Then try to start it. Either that or a very loose battery connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ah starter? Go underneath and give it a love tap with teh hammer. Then try to start it. Either that or a very loose battery connection I'm positive it's not the battery... I'm almost certain it's the theft system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Is the car cranking over at all? And are you sure the bulb for the "Security" light is any good? The VATS will signal a problem within itself by flashing the Security light. It should be steady lit with the key "ON" and engine off to show that the lamp is good. I had a "crank/no start" problem on the wife's old 96 Loomie a couple years back and I found it to be the Fuel Pump relay. I knew the FP relay was the culprit when I tapped on it with the handle of a screwdriver and the car fired right up. I simply removed the relay, sanded down the terminals, bent them out a bit, then reinstalled it. It never gave me the problem again. In addition to a loose cable connection and a dead battery, a "no crank" problem could also stem from a dead alternator, or worn-out battery cables as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 If you battery isn't tight as hell to the pos aux terminal if can cause it not to start, and to other wierd thing also. I have to tighten mine like once a year. If it's loose the ABS light comes on, sometimes power window doesn't work, and it starts randomly (especially in the cold). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 If you battery isn't tight as hell to the pos aux terminal if can cause it not to start, and to other wierd thing also. I have to tighten mine like once a year. If it's loose the ABS light comes on, sometimes power window doesn't work, and it starts randomly (especially in the cold).Forgot about that! I have to tighten the Aux post nut on my Regal every-other time I fill up the tank (and I even put and extra nut on top of the main nut to try to keep it snug...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ah starter? Go underneath and give it a love tap with teh hammer. Then try to start it. Either that or a very loose battery connection I'm positive it's not the battery... I'm almost certain it's the theft system How are you sure? If the starter/solenoid is shit, or there is a horrid connection somewhere, it'll click... or sometimes not even a click, with no start. I've got a 94 caravan sitting in the driveway that does the same thing and it needs a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 UPDATE: I just took my mom's car to go see if it started and it does.. and there is no click. Not sure what it is.. but thank you all!!! My car has really odd electrical problems.. so maybe that's it. Who knows, I'm just happy it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 yeah sometimes a loose battery connection will cause odd stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 So a loose battery connection could make my car not start but everything else still work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 UPDATE: I just took my mom's car to go see if it started and it does.. and there is no click. Not sure what it is.. but thank you all!!! My car has really odd electrical problems.. so maybe that's it. Who knows, I'm just happy it started. Still check the starter! They can go periodically. Again, for example, this van in the driveway started out as that... it wouldn't start... then it would. Got to the point to where the girl that had it had to turn the key off and on for five minutes before it'd crank over. Otherwise it'd either click, or it'd do absolutely nothing. Crawl under the thing, smack the starter with a hammer, and it'd start like there was no tomorrow. It jsut gets progressively worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalgorn Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 It could definately be the starter. I just replaced it on my car. The problem I had was it would crank slowly a few times and fire up, sometimes it would not do anything when I turned the key besides turn lights on but it would eventually crank and fire up after a few tries. Then it just finally all out died on me and wouldn't do anything but turn on all the lights. Dead starter. It's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted November 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ok I'll definitely check that out.. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Ok I'll definitely check that out.. thanks again Should be cake work to replace on your car also, assuming there is no oil cooler in the way, I say no more than a 30 minute job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 So a loose battery connection could make my car not start but everything else still work? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 If you battery isn't tight as hell to the pos aux terminal if can cause it not to start, and to other wierd thing also. I have to tighten mine like once a year. If it's loose the ABS light comes on, sometimes power window doesn't work, and it starts randomly (especially in the cold). My ABS light is now coming on.. looks like it might've been the battery. Or maybe it's just a whole new problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 lol its just an evil plan your car came up with to f**k with your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarloChick Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Knowing her.. you're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 I'd look into the starter and solenoid. Till then try this little test..PLEASE (because the repair shop thought I was full of it, dumb)..always turn your wheels straight before shutting off the car. My car would act up like yours and I'd sit for various times till it would kick in. I found that having the wheels straight made it start more consistantly...untill it was just acting up too much and I had the solenoid and starter replaced. Other than that, in nine years my car has failed to start (left me stranded)5 times. 1. crankshaft sensor----replaced 2. alternator-------------replaced 3. crankshaft sensor----replaced 4. battery----------------replaced 5. computer-------------replaced It still sits outside in winters. I think that may even be best for it. And yes it do get cold up here sometimes. Down here for you Candaians. Oh yeah, my car was made in Canada. No engine heater either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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