Brian P Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 S3980. Ive got one on my sister's car now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 hmmm maybe i cut the wrong filter apart? or I am remembering the wrong number...I can tell you one thing for sure..I didn't try to put it on after I cut it apart ...hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 you know the worst thing of it as is... I cut the first one apart with a sawzall...and then my father comes along and says why dont you just use the plumbers pipe cutter...the sawzall took 30 minutes..the pipe cutter takes 3 minutes and the cut is alot cleaner DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 I wish I had a pipe cutter that big :oops: actually I have an adjustable exhaust pipe cutter that would do the same thing. But this isnt for a few months, if I even do the next oil change on her car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Both the Fram PH3980 and the Champion Labs (STP, SuperTech) filters for our cars have anti-drainback valves. I have cut them both apart and you can even kind of see the antidrainback valve by looking through the hole in the filter. The FRAM sucks but the Champ Labs filters are quite good. I'm almost sure anti-drainback valves are installed in all aftermarket filters that are supposed to replace OEM filters that have antidrainback valves. Engines with completely vertical filters just don't need anti-drainback valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 hmmm I just noticed your... avatar...you really dont like apc do you ? hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerfbars Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 I've always used Carquest "WIX" filters with Valvoline oil. The Carquest number is a 85040, but I've always used the long version 85036. I always use a quart of Lucas oil additive too. I have about 350,000 miles on my 2.8L right now and the motor has never been apart and I still have a ton of oil pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 you know I howl ever time I see your car... mine used to look almost exactly like that... then my mom drove it..and ..and ..and.. snif snif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 not many cars have them completely verticle....the only one I can think of is the rx7...and it's pointing with the hole down ...on top of the motor..so you always make a mess....umm and it seems like a ford motor has it too..but i dont remember which one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 My Silverado oil filter is completely vertical and the OEM filter has no anti-drainback valve. I would guess all the Gen III V8's (4.8, 5.3, 6.0, and LS1) are also completely vertical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCutSupreme Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 man that's one hell of an engine with 350k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 your silverado uses a adaptor to turn the filter vertical dosen't it?...not one that you put one..but from the factory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 your silverado uses a adaptor to turn the filter vertical dosen't it?...not one that you put one..but from the factory... Not that I noticed. I looked at diagrams on Alldata and it doesn't look like there's an adapter there either. Here's a pic of one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2406244577&category=33615 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberZ Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 I used to use Fram all the time(on my Wrangler) I dunno why everyone gives it such a bad status. Right now for the impala i use Penzoil(however its spelled) or an AC Delco filter. My friend being the K&N nut he is buys K&N oil filters and uses them on his GTP. But Delco an Penz for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Fram has a bad rep because their materials suck, their quality sucks, their design sucks, and overall, their filters just plain suck. They'll still work fine, your car can still last several hundred thousand miles with them (maybe). They're just not as good in quality as many lower-priced filters. Not worth it paying more for a lesser quality product, IMO. BTW, I used to use Fram for everything before I first saw that minimopar oil study and cut my own Fram apart to compare. The Fram PH3980 filter that we use in our W-bodies is just as poorly designed as the one that was dissected in the minimopar oil study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drache Rott Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 oh boy it's getting bad...now shawn is throwing the mini mopar thing in here! all I can say is I didnt do it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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