birdman Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 would it be worth the time to make the stock trailing arms square instead of being 3 sided. i could weld a plate to make them boxed, do think it would work? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90TGP Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 If you know how to weld, it shouldn't be that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 theyre made of crappy metal, sorta like pot metal, (stamped steel actually, technically). they should be weldable but may be easy to burn through. still think the gmpp ones would be better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 just spend the ~<30 bucks on GMPP ones and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlass1991 Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 i have a new set of rear trailing arms that I didnt put on yet. Can I just take the old ones off or will the leaf spring shoot me in the chest or something? What I'm asking is there a special procedure to remove them, or can I just take out the two bolts holding the hold one on without removing the rest of the rear suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 thanks, i didnt know they were made of crappy metal, my other option was to cut off the ends and weld a good bar in there, like a 1x1 piece of square stock, worth it or still go for the gmpp ones. btw where do get the gmpp ones? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 i have a new set of rear trailing arms that I didnt put on yet. Can I just take the old ones off or will the leaf spring shoot me in the chest or something? What I'm asking is there a special procedure to remove them, or can I just take out the two bolts holding the hold one on without removing the rest of the rear suspension. Â i was wondering this too, the trailing arms are not like keeping anything surpressed is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 no i dont belive it is but the front bolt usually requries a torch to get loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 They are a bitch to get off, and you will need a screwdriver or something to fit through the hole and line it up to put the bolts back through when you are ready to do the install. Â I had a hell of a time though getting mine off, including burning the rubber out and cutting in sideways to spray WD-40 inside the sleeve to the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 They are a bitch to get off, and you will need a screwdriver or something to fit through the hole and line it up to put the bolts back through when you are ready to do the install. I had a hell of a time though getting mine off, including burning the rubber out and cutting in sideways to spray WD-40 inside the sleeve to the bolt. great to hear, and come to think i was gonna do this on a day when i had an extra hour to spare Fuck, but that shouldn't suprise me, wbody and rust = a bitch to work on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 is it the rust that makes it hard to do because my underbody is almost rust free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 is it the rust that makes it hard to do because my underbody is almost rust free so is mine, its the rust on the bolts that make it tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Dubya Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 i did them on both of my cars, one of them a ny car since its existence began and a winter beater for an IBM'er here who drove a nice Caddy during the summer months. My advice, invest in an electric impact gun, grab a good can of rust inhibitor, a boxed end wrench and spin that nut off. Home Depot has a nice Dewalt impact that can definetely get most jobs done. and dealer can get those GMPP trailing arms. I don't have the pn# handy but the dealer can find it. Â Edit: tubular trailing arm pn# 10409660. You will need 2. Or order the kit #12498649. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 thanks everyone, seems like gmpp ones are the way to go, that is if i can get the bolts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlsp Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 pb blaster kills rust but like others have said get the GMPP trailing arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 just get them from gmpp http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpartsjsp/partsearch.jsp?partsearchinput=12498649&submit.x=22&submit.y=6 Good wrench Rust Penetrant and Inhibitor # 1052627 works much better than pb blaster. i think even if you boxed them in, they still wouldnt be as strong as the tubular ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 thanks alot, so those fit with no mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalgorn Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Just order the set from http://www.gmpartsdirect.com  The part # is 12498649. Shipping was like 13 bucks or something.. no big deal. I put one on because my stocker snapped in half. Was ridiculous trying to get it on. My dad ended up torching the front bolt off and replacing it. The rear was tough to get off too but it finally budged with a breaker bar with a long pipe attached to it for leverage. I've got the second one sitting in my back seat. A cop thought it was my club.  I believe the reason they were tough to remove is that the nut on the bolt is one of those locking ones that is meant to be incredibly tough to remove so that they will only be removed if you REALLY want them to.  Yes, the GMPP ones will bolt up without any sort of modification or fabrication. They're bolt-in replacements and a MUCH better design. You can just tell when holding the two in your hand.  I fixed my stocker that snapped in half with a piece of green metal fence post and 4 hose clamps. :shock: 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneygreen Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 i'm trying to fird the part number for trailing arms on gmpartsdirect.com for a 96 monte/lumina. any body know i came up with 10282766 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpartsjsp/partsearch.jsp?partsearchinput=12498649&submit.x=22&submit.y=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneygreen Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 is that the correct part # for the 96 lumina/monte because it says for a 99-02 monte,2000-02 impala and 97-02 grand prix it does't say 96 monte/lumina. I just want to make sure it is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Cutlass Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 It'll work on a first gen, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 It'll work on a first gen, right? Â Yes, its the same for first gens, 1988-2003 use the same trailing arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneygreen Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 im thinking GM didnt want the public to know they were reusing 1988 design on thier 2002 cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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