f_399 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 1997 3100 I feel the gear that pulls most is 2nd Weakest I would say 3rd.... not 4th coz it always switches to 3rd and that goes all the way to the limiter Quote
manitcor Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 4th isint really a gear, its your torque converter locked giving you a 1:0.79 ratio, its not really a gear though. 3rd gear is 1:1 so its putting out the exact power you engine is putting down minus rotating mass losses. 1st gear is your most powerful at 2.9:1 it pretty much steps down from there. DISCLAIMER: The ratios stated are slightly different depending on the year and the car, the 4t60 came in many gear combinations from 2.97 - 3.33 fdr Quote
f_399 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Posted October 23, 2005 wow thats complicated stuff you will find out how weak the 3100 is when your on 3rd! i had a hard time keeping up with a 4 cylinder hyundai! nuthings wrong with my car its running great... i guess its the lack of power so in a dyno your on 3rd? manitcor- this is funny, we are posting the same things in 2 different forums Quote
TeeJay3800 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 4th isint really a gear, its your torque converter locked giving you a 1:0.79 ratio, its not really a gear though. Is that entirely true? At light throttle, my converter locks up in 3rd, and then 4th comes after that. I don't think the converter is locking up twice. A long time ago, before I knew anything about lockup torque coverter autos, I thought my car was shifting 5 times, lol. I didn't realize until I started talking to people that one of those "shifts" was the TCC locking up. Quote
Miko K Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 4th isint really a gear, its your torque converter locked giving you a 1:0.79 ratio, its not really a gear though. Wow, post that on the 3800pro and you'll get suspended for too many laughs . 4th gear is it's own gear, with the clutches and all that stuff. Quote
Canada Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 The 4T60-E does have four mechanical 'gears'..........IIRC... 2.92 1.87 1.00 0.705 I could be wrong.....but there are four different mechanical gear ratios. Plus, the the torque converter can lock up, so there isn't any slippage through that. The TCC only comes on in 4th gear. Quote
manitcor Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 my bad, thats what I get for posting and drinking :oops: Quote
Regal_GS_1989 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 The 4T60-E does have four mechanical 'gears'..........IIRC... 2.92 1.87 1.00 0.705 I could be wrong.....but there are four different mechanical gear ratios. Plus, the the torque converter can lock up, so there isn't any slippage through that. The TCC only comes on in 4th gear. Yup, thats right. there are 4 mechanical gears and the lockup torque. And the convertor in both my regals lock up in 3rd gear under light acceleration. Quote
Turbo231 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Posted October 23, 2005 Yup, thats right. there are 4 mechanical gears and the lockup torque. And the convertor in both my regals lock up in 3rd gear under light acceleration. Same here on my 93 GP. Its easiest to spot going up a hill on light throttle...you can count the gear and TCC lockups. Best if the hill tapers off near the top. Quote
sdwhite Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 Sometimes...with certain transmissions... REVERSE is the strongest gear. I was able to get rubber in my '86 in reverse better than in 1st forward... EH? V-8 was twisting the frame off the drive wheel, plus, the reverse gear was just higher numerically than 1st forward. Quote
john99gtp Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 Yup, thats right. there are 4 mechanical gears and the lockup torque. And the convertor in both my regals lock up in 3rd gear under light acceleration. Same here on my 93 GP. Its easiest to spot going up a hill on light throttle...you can count the gear and TCC lockups. Best if the hill tapers off near the top. so will that make it feel like '5' gears? Quote
TeeJay3800 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 The 4T60-E does have four mechanical 'gears'..........IIRC... 2.92 1.87 1.00 0.705 I could be wrong.....but there are four different mechanical gear ratios. Plus, the the torque converter can lock up, so there isn't any slippage through that. The TCC only comes on in 4th gear. FWIW, on my 4T60, the TCC engages in 3rd gear too. Quote
Guest TurboSedan Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 due to lack of traction in 1st and 2nd, i would have to say 3rd gear is my strongest gear Quote
Miko K Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 My 1st tops out at ~50MPH, 2nd at ~90MPH and I never topped out 3rd(~145MPH), so I guess I don't know which one is my strongest 4th theoreticaly goes to ~230 at 6000RPM... Damn, I need moo pawaaaa! Quote
sl3196 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Posted October 26, 2005 due to lack of traction in 1st and 2nd, i would have to say 3rd gear is my strongest gear No shit. Thats when you pull hard on me lol. Quote
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