IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 16, 2005 Report Posted October 16, 2005 if you want a good oil filter, this might help. im bored at work, so ive been crossing numbers, and this is what ive come up with a stock 3.1 filter is an ac part number pf52, they are like what? 5 bucks...paperfilters so i work at cummins, and we carry fleetguard, one of the best filters ever! and i crossed it to a lf782, then i got to researching thread sizes and shit.... i found a filter thats an inch or so longer which means its got more filtering area, then THAT one crossed to one the same size, only with the brand new synthetic filter media supposed to be like 20 times better then the paper! Its number is LF3554 Go to your local fleetguard dealer, or cummins dealer, and tell tehm you are from some major mine, trucking company or whatever, and then tell them its a cash ticket, and you will get this good filter for like 1.50! thought youd like to know! http://www.fleetguard.com i can cross any filters, and get them for you dirt cheap... Quote
3pt1lumina Posted October 16, 2005 Report Posted October 16, 2005 dude that's sweet... im gonna try that next oil change Quote
93CutlassSupreme Posted October 16, 2005 Report Posted October 16, 2005 Stock 3.1 should be PF47. nope. stock 3.1 Multiport is PF 52 Quote
sl3196 Posted October 16, 2005 Report Posted October 16, 2005 Stock 3.1 should be PF47. nope. stock 3.1 Multiport is PF 52 No shit eh? I always figured it was the same as the 3100's. PF 52 is what I use on the gtp. If the fleetguard ones are an inch longer then that I don't think they would work on my car. Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Posted October 16, 2005 they should, your filters still on the front side of the engine, right? i bet i can find one thatll work we have thousands and thousands of filters..... Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Posted October 16, 2005 so then whats a pf47 go to??? Ill do some looking tonight. hey sl3196 if you ever need a stock filter, stop by and ill give you one! Laters! ....on a nite shift of courseLOL!! Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Posted October 16, 2005 ok the pf47 crosses to an LF711, and supercedes to an LF780, which is an older filter (Stock) it is just an inch shorter version of the LF782!! So if you go back to my original post, the LF782 crosses to the new style synthetic filter, LF3554! i went out in my work parkinglott lastnight and took off my ac delco pf52 and spun on the LF3553, no leaks, its a longer filter, and it is specifically made to work with synthetic fluids, plus itll filter like 10 times smaller particles then the factor paper filter! Quote
sl3196 Posted October 16, 2005 Report Posted October 16, 2005 they should, your filters still on the front side of the engine, right?i bet i can find one thatll work we have thousands and thousands of filters..... No. My filter is on the pass side right under the acc. belt. Not much more room left for anything longer then the PF52. It would hit the control arm. (i think or a-arm dunno what its called haha) Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Posted October 16, 2005 hmmm ill have to see if i can get a stock one in the synthetic fiber...i bet i can. Quote
Garrett Powered Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 Good find, I hope. I have been recently freaked out by an article about the construction of oil filters. AC Delco is all I will run right now. If the internals are all the same besides the filter paper(backing plate, bypass valve, etc.) then it would be better. Some of frem were really crappy. I changed to an AC the NEXT DAY! after reading how certain designs differ internally from stock and can cause the valvetrain to be noisy. Wasn't worth the risk. However there was a few that I would use if they were longer like that. There was like 10 brands in the study, only like 3 of them were worthy. Does Wix have a longer one? I already asked the dealer if AC makes a longer one, and they said no.(had the same idea) Quote
pwmin Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 PF 47 is stock for cars. the 52 is stock for trucks with the 4.3. unless you go to some 80's cars and some other trucks/vans. http://www.acdelco.com/html/catalog/index_list.htm why are fleetguard so good? Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Posted October 17, 2005 PF 47 is stock for cars. the 52 is stock for trucks with the 4.3. unless you go to some 80's cars and some other trucks/vans. http://www.acdelco.com/html/catalog/index_list.htm why are fleetguard so good? well, for one they are their own entity. Fleetguard IS filters, nothing else. ""Every Fleetguard Inc. product is guaranteed to deliver top quality performance. Because your equipment demands it. Our engineers design every product to meet original equipment specifications to ensure that your valuable investment is fully protected. We deliver the performance your tough job demands."" Even their stock replacement stuff is better tehn stock because their filters are just built better, but recently they came out with this synthetic filtering medium that kicks papers ass! this is off of their web site. Why By-pass Filtration Is Superior With the introduction of combination lube filtration technology, Fleetguard® revolutionized the industry. As SAE 710813/790098 confirms, by-pass filtration reduces engine wear in the following key areas: Upper connecting rod bearing shell Lower connecting rod bearing shell Upper main bearing shell Lower main bearing shell StrataPore™ Media By implementing the revolutionary StrataPore™ multi-layered media in the 1990s, the combo filter was improved even more. StrataPore™ was introduced in the full flow section to work in combination with the stacked discs to remove the smallest dirt particles, which cause the most engine damage. This configuration reduces engine wear by as much as 60% in some applications. Venturi™ Combo System The technology was taken even further with the introduction of the Venturi™ Combo. The OEM-approved Venturi™ allows the lube system to perform up to four times as long and remove up to three times the contaminants as a full synthetic filter. The patented Venturi™ nozzle provides a low-pressure zone for the oil to flow through the pleated media for increased efficiency. This innovative technology results in longer life and better performance for your vehicle. And, unlike its competitors, the Venturi™ Combo was tested in a real world environment, not bench tested. if anyone needs filters for something, pm me with your aplication, and a filter number of you have it. I have ALL Filters, fuel, stock air filters, oil some trans...... Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Posted October 17, 2005 ok, dan....your car calls for the same filter. its an LF780 which is 3.5 inches long (You know EXACTLY how long that is!) The LF782 is 4.5 inches long, same internals and threads. I can cross to the LF3554 which is exactly like the LF782 but synthetic. Can you fit another inch in there? Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Posted October 17, 2005 oh yeah the latter filter is a stock GMC CHevy Truck filter...i was just checking bypass pressure and shit, and it all lines up! Quote
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 I use the Purolator L24011 which i believe to be the same as a PF47 on my 3100...it fits and is larger. The car calls for an L10111 which is the same as a 3.8...but my 2.8 Cutlass used the L24011 so I just continued using them...takes a little extra oil but that doesn't hurt for sure. Quote
Euro Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 the one and only AC Delco for me.....no fram crap either....unless you like getting shit in your oil Quote
SigEpCutlass Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 Amsoil Super Duty filters pwn! Quote
Lou305sr Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 Yeah... I always ask for the 94 Caprice with the 5.7L oil filter (PF 52) Quote
digitaloutsider Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 You could just ask for the filter for an 88-93 2.8/3.1 and get the same thing. lol Quote
sl3196 Posted October 17, 2005 Report Posted October 17, 2005 I ask for a 2000 blazer with the 4.3 haha. Quote
IBuiltMine-o1oo Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Posted October 17, 2005 the l24011 crosses to the lf3554 the other goes to the lf780, which is an inch shorter and non synthetic version of the lf3554. The porolater is one of the few brands i trust... Quote
bartonmd Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 SL3196 has the 3800 S/C right? That engine was originally designed to be RWD, and the oil filter is EASY to get at in that position, but in a FWD car, it's a PITA... It also needs the short filter because, like he said, the control arm is moving up and down right below the filter... Mike Quote
sl3196 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 SL3196 has the 3800 S/C right? That engine was originally designed to be RWD, and the oil filter is EASY to get at in that position, but in a FWD car, it's a PITA... It also needs the short filter because, like he said, the control arm is moving up and down right below the filter... Mike No I can use the larger PF52 on mine. Just anything longer like sean found would probably not fit. Quote
bartonmd Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 SL3196 has the 3800 S/C right? That engine was originally designed to be RWD, and the oil filter is EASY to get at in that position, but in a FWD car, it's a PITA... It also needs the short filter because, like he said, the control arm is moving up and down right below the filter... Mike No I can use the larger PF52 on mine. Just anything longer like sean found would probably not fit. no shit? my '87 3.8L Bonne doesn't look like it has room... I guess it MAY have room for the filter, but doesn't have room for the filter socket and ratchet under it... Mike Quote
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